Black Alternate History Month: the Extended Remix
Feb 2nd, 2012 by Unamused
Update: the original “Black Invention Myths” website has gone down, but you can find all the content here.
Happy Black Alternate History Month, everybody!
If you don’t know what that is, have no fear: Unamusement Park is here to help.
Black Alternate History Month, or National African American Revisionist History Month, is “an annual [compulsory] celebration of [fictitious] achievements by black Americans and a time for [our Minority Occupation Government to strong-arm and brainwash white Americans into] recognizing the central role of African Americans in U.S. [black revisionist] history” (History.com).
Now you know!
2012, being a leap year, poses a special challenge for black racial grievance groups, not to mention the anti-white radical scum that pollutes our government, media, and universities. As I wrote on the occasion of Unamusement Park’s two-month anniversary:
Sadly, one of those months was February, the shortest and therefore gayest month. Why do you think we let black people have it? Twenty-eight days of black history is enough, thank you. And don’t even get me started on leap years. Last time I swear they tried to come up with a new civil rights hero to fill in the extra day. Her name was Posa Rarks and she refused to sit on the back of a tandem bicycle.
Wise words. Wise, clever, stalwart, sexy words.
How indeed will they concoct an extra day’s worth of fictitious “achievements by black Americans”? How will they inflate the relatively minor “role of African Americans in U.S. history” until it has been sufficiently centered in a 3.6% longer month? How, in short, will they manage to scrounge up enough black alternate history to fill all twenty-nine white-hating days of February?
I don’t think they’re up to the task. That “Posa Rarks” trick is not going to work twice. Someone is going to have to lend them a helping hand. But whose flows are sufficiently fresh for Black Alternate History Month: the Extended Remix?
Once again, it’s Unamusement Park to the rescue! Yes, Unamusement Park — that enormous, overflowing vat of creative juices with thick greasy chunks of history floating in it — is delighted to offer its services in the form of a new series celebrating black history.
I call it: Celebrating Black History. (See how creative I am?)
Let’s begin with a man whose flows are far from sufficiently fresh — the freshness of whose flows utterly fails to suffice: one David A. Love, author of “Debunking the 10 biggest myths about black history” (The Grio, Feb. 1, 2012).
Alexander Stephens had some damn fine ideas
The first of “the 10 biggest myths about black history” is that “[t]he Civil War was not fought over slavery.” In a move that may surprise ‘Park regulars, I’m actually going to concede this one to the author: the Civil War was in fact fought over slavery. And the South was right.
“If you want to know whether the Civil War was fought over slavery,” writes David Love, “just read the words of Alexander Stephens, vice president of the Confederate States of America in 1861:”
The prevailing ideas entertained by… most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old constitution, were that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally, and politically…. Those ideas, however, were fundamentally wrong. They rested upon the assumption of the equality of races. This was an error… Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner-stone rests upon the great truth, that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition.
Talk about what we used to know about race! Would that the average white American understood today what Vice President Stephens was saying 150 years ago. (Ignore that part about “his natural and normal condition” for now and just concentrate on the bold.)
Let me be clear: I don’t want to bring back slavery, mainly because slavery is how blacks got here in the first place. If it wasn’t for slavery, they’d still be in Africa, and we’d be far better off for it. That to me is reason enough to oppose the use of slave labor. Also, slavery is bad — which, of course, is why white people eventually abolished it. (Somehow, blacks and Arabs never got around to it…)
But given the choice between
- the prevailing ideas still entertained by our leading idiots — I mean, statesmen, which are as fundamentally wrong as ever because they still rest upon the assumption — the lie — of the equality of races, and
- a government founded upon exactly the opposite idea, which we call human biodiversity (or “white racism”) today, and which in 1861 should have been common sense,
the choice is clear: God bless the Confederate States of America.
The best thing that ever happened to black people
The second, third, fourth, and fifth “biggest myths about black history” are not worth my attention. The sixth is that “[b]lack Americans are better off (versus Africans) because of slavery.”
We will never know what Africa would have been today without the disruption of slavery and colonization. To argue, as conservative David Horowitz claims, that African-Americans are better off because of slavery — and should be thankful they are the most prosperous blacks in the world — is to ignore the high price that black people have paid.
Remarkable — the sheer inanity of that first sentence, I mean.
The reason “[w]e will never know what Africa would have been today without the disruption of slavery” is because all it takes to create black slavery is black people. They’re still enslaving each other, for crying out loud — not to mention robbing and raping and torturing and killing and hunting and eating and dismembering each other.
Recall, if you will, Unamusement Park’s Short History of Black Civilization.
- Black people have had ample opportunity to create a civilization of their own, but have never managed to do so.
- This is probably due to their relatively low racial levels of intelligence and conscientiousness, and relatively high racial levels of violence and other anti-social behavior.
- Many civilizations — quite nice ones — have been built for blacks by whites (e.g., in Rhodesia, South Africa, the Belgian Congo, Haiti, Jamaica, and the USA).
- Such efforts by whites toward civilizing blacks (including colonization and slavery) have invariably and dramatically improved life for blacks. Blacks should be profoundly grateful to whites. Of course, they never are.
- Left to their own devices, blacks invariably destroy civilization of any kind.
Harsh, I know, but it needed to be said.
Now allow me supplement that Short History of Black Civilization with a Short History of African Slavery. It too is harsh, and will probably offend some nice black people who don’t deserve it. But it too needs to be said.
African blacks were a bunch of half-naked cannibal savages living in mud huts throwing spears at one another. They had no written language. They had no science or technology or industry. They had no culture in the usual sense of the word. They lived like wild animals. It’s called r-selection.
Millions of African blacks and as many as a million European whites were captured by Arabs and other African blacks and sold as slaves to Arabs and other African blacks and whites and American Indians.
Eventually, white people got around to freeing their black slaves, which was obviously a huge mistake. Every “racist” prediction about black indolence, incompetence, illegitimacy, criminality, general lack of morals, etc. would soon prove true — in spectacular fashion. Those predictions, of course, were why virtually everyone who wanted to free the slaves back in the day, including Lincoln, also insisted on shipping them all back to Africa: because of exactly what has happened in America since we let loose the blacks on white society.
Still, whites felt that abolishing slavery was the right thing to do. None of the other races involved in African slavery came to that conclusion: not the Arabs, not the African blacks, not the American Indians. They were quite happy with their slaves.
So how did that work out for black people? Well, look at the descendants of those slaves, the African-Americans. Compare them to Africans, who are still mostly a bunch of half-naked cannibal savages living in mud huts throwing spears at one another. Slavery was the best thing that ever happened to blacks.
As Fred Reed brilliantly put it:
[B]lacks ought to be grateful that their faster ancestors caught their slower ancestors — which is exactly what happened — and sold them to the slavers. American blacks would otherwise be somewhere on the Slave Coast of Africa, barefoot, illiterate, blankly ignorant, wearing loincloths, living in stick huts that would give Eeyore the willies, and shuddering with malaria. That’s what Africa is: primitive, hopeless, godawful. I’ve been in Masai hutments, spent time in the outback of Cuando Cubango. It’s not Stone Age. It’s more like Stick Age. No country in Africa today comes close, or ever has, to the culture of Fifth Century Athens, 2500 years ago.
Slavery brought our blacks into contact with a vastly superior civilization from which they benefit enormously, and without the slightest gratitude. Everything blacks enjoy in this country today — air-conditioning, writing, automobiles, television, medicine, welfare, medicine, everything — they enjoy only because they were brought here. Further, they have contributed almost nothing to the industrial and technological flowering that has provided the benefits they enjoy.
I begrudge them none of this. I am, however, tired of endlessly being blamed for their problems.
Whites, it seems to me, and not blacks, suffer the deleterious effects of slavery. The crime, AFDC, Section Eight housing, the other costs of supporting illegitimate children, the burned cities, the enormous hidden cost of affirmative action, the constant lowering of standards for blacks, the cost of police forces: Whites bear this burden. It is not light.
Please do read the whole thing.
It is entirely obvious that the descendants of slaves in America are much better off because of slavery. But I’m actually willing to concede this one as well — just as soon as all the blacks go back to Africa, starting with David Love.
“Badges? We ain’t got no badges”
The seventh of “the 10 biggest myths about black history” is that “[s]lavery was not a dehumanizing institution — it was just work for free, so blacks should get over it.” I’m not surprised that a man who makes a living complaining about how hard it is to be black should so strongly oppose other black people “getting over” something that happened over 150 years ago to other, long-dead black people to whom today’s African-Americans may or may not be related.
Let me begin by noting that the abuse of black slaves by white masters is wildly exaggerated. Why would you damage an expensive piece of property, let alone the source of your livelihood? Claims of sexual abuse of slaves are particularly absurd — as if whites have ever been remotely interested in raping blacks! Such fables are a fairly transparent attempt to deflect attention away from the realities of race and crime. Oh, and one other thing: lynching “victims” — black and white alike — generally deserved to die, because they were either rapists or murderers.
But let’s focus on the “myth” that “blacks should get over it.” It isn’t long before the author hauls out the “legacy of slavery” — oh, wait, it’s a “badge” this time — to make gullible white people feel guilty and give black people more free stuff.
[T]he badge of slavery continues to haunt African-Americans today in the form of economic discrimination, higher interest rates for mortgages, redlining and employment practices. …
Moreover, blacks continue to suffer disproportionately in the bad economy. The wealth gap between whites and blacks [more than quadrupled from 1984 and 2007. In addition, the] slashing of public sector jobs has plunged many blacks into poverty, and the recession wiped out black wealth and with it the black middle class.
There are two key points here. First, there is no such thing as a “legacy” or “badge” of slavery. There is no mechanism by which the history of slavery — let alone the modern mythology of slavery with its “evil white slavers” and “poor innocent blacks who built this country and didn’t even get paid waaah” — could make blacks such spectacular failures today.
Second, disparate impact does not imply disparate treatment. All of these things that “haunt African-Americans today” are better explained by race differences in intelligence and other behavioral traits, such as conscientiousness and aggressiveness — in short, by human biodiversity — than by discrimination.
Some, like “higher interest rates for mortgages,” are directly caused by race differences in behavior: to a bank, the average African-American represents a bigger gamble than the average European-American — or the average Chinese-American, for that matter.
Others, like the disparate impact of slashing public sector jobs, are only indirectly caused by race differences in behavior: since we are not allowed to talk about race differences in behavioral traits, the only remaining explanation for the race differences in economic outcomes they create is mythical “white racism,” an explanation which has led to (among other things) affirmative action in government hiring and thus a disproportionate number of blacks with public sector jobs.
So remember:
- There is no such thing as a “legacy” of slavery.
- Disparate impact does not imply disparate treatment.
Black invention myths
The eighth and tenth “biggest myths about black history” are also not worth my attention. The ninth is that “American innovation was exclusively white.” It is not clear who actually believes that American innovation was exclusively (meaning 100%) white, but let’s be generous to the author and assume he meant something like “American innovation was almost exclusively white, and we could easily do without the minor contributions of black Americans.”
That happens to be true.
Despite Pat Buchanan’s belief that “this has been a country built, basically, by white folks,” African-Americans have made invaluable contributions to this country through inventions, exploration, and all fields of endeavor.
Have they really? “[I]nvaluable contributions… through inventions, exploration, and all fields of endeavor”? Alright, let’s hear it.
As Randall Robinson noted in his book The Debt: What America Owes to Blacks, the U.S. government requested 100 slaves to construct the Capitol in Washington. Masters who agreed to lend their slaves to the government received $5 per month per slave. Subsequently, forced labor helped clear the land for the rest of the District of Columbia.
Well, sure. I concede that blacks are capable of manual labor under white supervision. Is that the extent of their “invaluable contributions”?
But black people helped build America in other ways as well. Benjamin Banneker, an African-American inventor, astronomer, mathematician, urban planner and farmer helped survey what would become the city of Washington, DC.
He “helped survey” the land? Is that the best you can do?
Oh, it actually is. Never mind.
Dr. Daniel Hale Williams performed the first successful open heart surgery operation…
… while Dr. Charles Drew was a pioneer in blood banks and the storage and processing of blood plasma.
George Washington Carver was a renowned scientist and educator who reportedly found hundreds of uses for peanuts, soybeans, pecans and sweet potatoes.
Lewis Latimer worked with Thomas Edison, and invented carbon filaments for incandescent lamps.
Garrett Morgan invented the traffic light and sold it to General Electric, with his design becoming the basis for modern traffic lights. He also invented the gas mask.
Marie Van Brittan Brown invented the home security system.
She filed a patent for a closed-circuit television security system.
Black explorer Matthew Henson was the first person to reach the North Pole…
Maybe — on a white expedition. Well, congratu-fucking-lations!
… and the list goes on and on.
Indeed, the list of black invention myths goes on and on, and the disingenuous or just plain deluded people, like David Love, who promulgate those myths do themselves go on and on and on and on…
… and on and on and on and on …
"Did you put us here to distract everybody from your raciss-ness with our cuteness?"
… and on and on and on and on and on and on and on…
Awwwwe…..Kitty Cats!!!!! So cute!!!!
“Disparate impact does not imply disparate treatment.”
I WILL steal that from you just as sure as Steve Sailer time traveled back to steal your pointed question of “I don’t know if it’s racist or not, but is it true?”
Because I’m in a generous mood, you can have: Race isn’t a social construct, racial equality is.
What? Someone already said that? Mr. Sailer must’ve lent out that time machine of his.
Speaking of generosity, I once worked as a secretary for a scientist who did an extensive study on carbonless copy paper. In a moment of rare whimsy on his part, he named me in the final published piece as a contributor. All I knew of carbonless copy paper is that it lacked carbon, apparently, could be copied, and started out as a tree. See, I’ve contributed to science! And, my contribution was invaluable!
I haven’t been to Washington DC in forever but I heard that there are these ridiculous museums of Black inventors & that the Smithsonian itself has been transformed into a goofy PC nightmare of a never ending Black History Fiction Month.
Since I haven’t seen all this with my own 2 eyes, the story of what the guy saw could be fiction itself, buuuuut I got a bad feeling it’s not. Again, all of this mythological black invention & contribution is hysterical to us, but to 5th grader in a classroom or on a field trip, it’s dead serious.
If we ever bring back lynchings, today’s educators need to somewhere at the top of the list. March could be ‘Lynch Month.’
I’ve been, Reality. Your friend is correct — about the Smithsonian, at least. I saw it in November. The exhibit is called “Race: Are We So Different?” (YES WE
CANARE), brought to you by the American Anthropological Association.It kicks off with standard race denialist pseudoscience: “We’re all 99% similar genetically! Some people’s skin color is in-between!” And so on. It identifies race with skin color and makes some efforts toward “proving” that’s all it is (i.e., no genetic basis), but mostly just settles for confusing the issue as much as possible.
The “science” section blends seamlessly into relatively mild anti-white propaganda: “Slavery! Jim Crow! Pictures of sad-looking black schoolchildren! The Nazis believed in race! Look how much money white people make! And since we already established that ‘race’ is just skin color, that must be because of WHITE RACISM!”
Nothing I haven’t seen before. But did you know they have DINOSAURS? And did you know they have GIANT PREHISTORIC KITTEHS?
Unamusement Park, the site you come to for race realism, but stay for the kittehs.
I’ve been in Masai hutments, spent time in the outback of Cuando Cubango. It’s not Stone Age. It’s more like Stick Age.
Stick Age! That’s the thing about Freed Reed: he sure knows how to turn a phrase!
No country in Africa today comes close, or ever has, to the culture of Fifth Century Athens, 2500 years ago.
It might also be interesting to compare Stonehenge or various recent archeological “digs” in Europe to sub-Saharan Africa of the early 19th century, before colonialism got rolling big time. See who was ahead of the civilization game.
Damn you John Wilkes Booth! Lincoln was planning to ship ’em all back to Africa but you screwed that up.
stick age… man that is funny and so true.
It’s my understanding slavery was the [occasion] for the civil war, not the reason for it.
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If African labor “built” this country, then it’s logical to conclude that a shortage of that black labor would’ve left America a vast wilderness with White people aimlessly wandering around.
Thank you, Negroes, for laying the path to modernity!
Hmmm. I can’t help but wonder, though … if labor is the seed from which an advanced civilization blooms, then, following the logic above, Africa, with its overabundance of African labor, should, in fact, be a collection of thriving First-World nations, complete with space programs and other markers of high technological achievement.
Why is the dark continent a shit hole again?
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I’ve noticed the vast majority of accomplished blacks are mulattoes, or, clearly, have some degree of European ancestry. This is yet another reason American-Africans should be infinitely grateful to the White man.
They have enough of our genetic material to aid them and their people to better lives.
Another harsh reality DWLs, blacks and black sympathizers would rather ignore because the acceptance of this truth would be … wait for it … umm … er … raycisssssssssssss!!!!
[Unamused: Nice one.]
You’ll notice that Stephens’ comments may explain why certain southern states seceded*, but it doesn’t address why the north sent hundreds of thousands of troops into the south to ‘preserve the union.’
To paraphrase one contemporary dissident (Lysander Spooner), had the north desired to see the slaves freed, all they needed to do was let the south secede and then welcome runaway slaves as free citizens. The costs of enforcing slavery would have overwhelmed the south, and the north would have an abundance of diversity.
It’s not difficult to imagine why the north never pursued this option.
*One 19th southern revisionist historian (I’ve long since forgotten his name) described slavery as “the tallest tree amongst a forest” of differences between the north and the south….a motivating force for secession, but hardly the only one.
Has anyone else in the [Chicago] area seen the commercial for [African-American History Month] that tries to make (don’t remember the [person’s] name, probably Sheqeena Washington) a “civil right trailblazer” because she was the first African-American woman to own a radio station?
[Unamused: cleaned it up a little]
What this article needs are some pictures of “black” people:
http://www.google.com/search?q=Daniel+Hale+Williams&tbm=isch
http://www.google.com/search?q=Charles+Drew&tbm=isch
Judging from their appearance (how dare I!), those two people probably did make valuable (ie not invaluable) contributions, not to the extent they are credited for, but much like hundreds of thousands of white people who go unnoticed.
Note that those pictures in the image searches I posted that actually look black are fakes. One is actually George Washington Carver, the rest are from black alternate history month.
[Unamused: Good catch.]
Well Unamused, if it makes you feel better, apparently most Geographers feel that the Peary/Henson expedition never got anywhere near the North Pole, and the first man to actually reach it was a Norwegian, Roald Amundsen in 1926.
I naturally expect US history book writers to ignore this forever, since Amundsen was nothing but a White Devil.
1) The Civil War was “about” slavery in the sense that the South seceded to preserve it. But the war was not started by the secession; it was started by the Union invasion. The Union’s motivation here was “Union” itself, namely: they were fighting for the idea that the Union was permanent and unchangeable. Yes, this seems bonkers.
2) Africans have and always had culture. All humans do. Yes, even blacks, you dirty racist. Indeed, even chimpanzees have culture, albeit in extremely modest forms compared to people.
3) Yes, masters “raped” slaves. (If that is the right crime label for fucking your personal property. Not sure.) Do recall that white Americans average <1% African ancestry, while blacks average ~20% European ancestry. How do you think those genes got there? Consensual (though illegal) sex between master and slave ala Thomas Jefferson?
Good points, Leonard.
Sure, chimpanzees have “culture” in the sense that “Kibale Forest chimpanzees use sticks to get at the honey, whereas Budongo Forest chimpanzees rely on leaf sponges.” Neither they nor Africans have culture “in the usual sense of the word” (in my far-from-humble opinion).
And I would say yes, consensual miscegenation either before or after the abolition of slavery, while certainly icky, is a more plausible explanation for most of that European DNA. But to be clear: I believe claims of slave abuse are “wildly exaggerated” (for political purposes) and that the claims of sexual abuse are, in general, particularly absurd (and designed to deflect attention away from a real race relations problem), not that no master/white person ever abused a single slave/black person.
How do you think those genes got there? Consensual (though illegal) sex between master and slave ala Thomas Jefferson?
Most certainly. See E.B. Reuter, ‘The Mulatto in the United States,’ 1918, Chapter VI:
Another source of the increase of the mulatto group has been the concubinage of colored women by white men. This form of sex relation was fairly common in certain sections during the period of slavery. The relation, where it existed, approached often more nearly a form of polygamy than that of an indiscriminate sex relation.
In general, it seems not to have been a promiscuous relation between the master class and the female slaves, but a relation between some favorite slave girl and a young man of the family. It was not in any sense a forced relation on the part of the Negress; on the contrary, it was a relation to which the girl of the upper classes of the Negroes aspired as the highest honor and privilege which she could attain. To the girl it was, in the great majority of cases, a matter of being honored by a white man.
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These concubinages produces a number of mulatto children, often freed by the master/father in the following way:
Cincinatti was full of [colored] women, without husbands, and their children. These were sent by the planters of Louisiana, Mississippi, and some from Tennessee, who had got fortunes and […] had sent their slave wives and children to Cincinatti and set them free. …. These ante-bellum Negro settlements were made by Southern slave-holders who desired to free their slaves and were not able to do so under the restrictions that were imposed upon emancipation in the Southern states. Many of the colored people in these settlements were the natural children of their master.
The famous ‘Placées’ of Creole Louisiana were another such type of voluntary concubinage, only in this case with free women of color.
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Assuming sex between master and slave was the only way to produce mulattoes is to forget that free blacks were numerous in N. America since colonial times:
The social conditions of the black and white servants was at first much the same; they ‘were bound together by a fellowship of toil.’ The relatively great number of vicious [low-class] whites in certain regions made it inevitable that there should be much illicit relations between the races. During the first half to three-quarters of a century there was an indiscriminate mingling and marrying.
In 1805 Thomas Branagan wrote:
I solemnly declare, I hvae seen more white women married to, and deluded through the arts of seduction by negroes in one year in Philadelphia, than for the eight years I was visiting [the U.S. South and the West Indies]. There are many, very many blacks, who… begin to feel themselves consequential,…will not be satisfied unless they get white women for wives. […] There are perhaps hundreds of white women thus fascinated by black men in this city, and there are thousands of black children by them at present.
Coerced sexual relations was likely a tiny fraction of the origin of the mulatto class in America.
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While I have welcomed much of the information and insight provided by this site, I believe that to say that slavery was justified by the inferiority of Blacks is to cross the line between race realism and racism.
Assuming normal distributions and a 1 Standard Deviation of IQ between black and whites, that still puts ~15% of blacks above the mean IQ of whites.
Furthermore, is there any number at which slavery would be allowable? Blacks are undeniably the same species as whites.
Yes, a lot of Blacks are brutal thugs and/or morons. But some of them are Clarence Thomas, Thomas F. Sowell, and Walter E. Williams.
Human slavery is an abomination.
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the mean IQ difference between white & black in the US was larger back in the 1800s – it lessened to 15 points thru the eventual 20% white admixture. e.g., African IQ’s today cluster around 70-75, b/c they have no white admixture. Slavery was an attempted (but not a final) solution! b/c then blacks were seen as far less human, now perhaps we err on the side of ascribing too much humanity to them. Admittedly, the Jim Crow laws were a more moral way to deal with blacks than slavery. separate but equal seems plenty moral to me. also, plenty of blacks owned blacks – probably the higher IQ caste owning the lower IQ caste. (for the most part). but hey, blacks invented black history month, didn’t they? :)
“It identifies race with skin color and makes some efforts toward “proving” that’s all it is”
@Unamused Well I certainly hope that one day some [blacks] will chimpout on a field [trip] to the Smithsonian – a FLASH MOB and begin beating each other & everyone else – all caught on surveillance cameras – then they smash the whole place up & then for the climax, torch it and burn it to the ground. Meanwhile the museum videos are playing in the background explaining how blacks are EXACTLY like white people, except they have black skin.
Irish slaves were bred with African slaves up until 1681, when it was forbidden because it was cutting into the profits of the Royal African company. That, I, believe is one reason for so much mixture in bloodlines.
http://www.giftofireland.com/IrishSlaves.htm
http://www.kavanaghfamily.com/articles/2003/20030618jfc.htm
Thanks M.G., that’s useful information.
As I said, bob: “I don’t want to bring back slavery. For one thing, slavery is how blacks got here in the first place. If it wasn’t for slavery, they’d still be in Africa, and we’d be far better off for it. That to me is reason enough to oppose slavery.”
For what it’s worth, I also happen to agree that slavery is immoral. It was, I believe, for essentially that reason that white people freed the slaves, which was not in itself a bad idea. Their “huge mistake” was that they did not subsequently ship all the freed slaves back to Africa. Frankly, compared to emancipation without repatriation, continued slavery would have probably been the lesser of two evils — but I am not committed to this point of view.
Anyway, my point was that our government is founded upon the myth of equality. How’s that working out for us?
panjoomby makes some good and deceptively subtle points, and “separate but equal” seems more than fair to me.
Separate but equal does work. In the evil South, blacks and whites used to self-segregate, and in some areas still do. They are mostly cordial in public, but live their own lives, go to their own churches/social gatherings, and integrate to an extent at work, but not as much as other forced areas that bleat on about “diversity”.
These black communities do or did have values — Baby Daddy/Baby Momma nonsense was not tolerated, people worked, went to Church, and obeyed the laws. It just makes sense for people who are alike to live and work together. You need cohesion to function at a high level, and homogeneity is the best way to ensure that. There are enough bright blacks to achieve moderate success, they just need to kick their ghetto brethren to the curb.
Peanut butter is just mashing shit up, much like hummus. Surely not an invention. Oh, those photos of the “African” American blood bank chap are hysterical. In the illustrations, they made him all negroidish and shit, but the photo is a Caucasian man. Someone switched they pickaninny ‘fo a white cracker baby!
Kittehs in the sink! Probably inventing a bunch of important shit for Kitteh history month. I say Kittehs deserve a full 30 day month, if not the vaunted 31.
Another brilliant, fact-filled entry from Unamused. I envy your clear, concise writing. The Dutchman has been celebrating Black Histry Munt by reading up on the true accomplishments of the Negro in Negroland: Dahomey, Ashanti, and Shaka Zulu.
I came across one eyewitness account by an American missionary who visited the Ashanti’s ‘city of blood’ in the mid-19th Century as a guest of the king. The king was somewhat afraid of Christianity so he made sure to have two slaves buried alive on either side of the city gate as magical protection. The missionary was able to see the giant ‘death drum’ and the executioner’s portable chopping blocks where the sacrifices would be decapitated. The king made sure that the missionary could not see the sacrifices in progress, but in the aftermath the American saw the headless bodies left to putrefy in the street. The inhabitants went about their business with nary a glance at the rotting carcasses lying in the road. When the bodies grew too ripe they were unceremoniously tossed in a pit near the city market. You could shop in the market to the accompanying stench of hundreds of moldering cadavers. The Ashanti are the height of African civilization.
I won’t go on and on about the Kingdom of Dahomey and the great founder of the Zulu kingdom, Shaka. In brief, Dahomey was a large African kingdom that grew out of the slave trade. The kingdom’s armies, including a corps of famously ugly ‘Amazons’, raided far and wide for slaves to sell to Arab and European slavers. Each year Dahomey would celebrate the ‘annual rites’ where hundreds of captives were sacrificed over several days. A good account of Dahomey was provided by Sir Richard Francis Burton.
Shaka of course is a hero to black children everywhere and what a hero he was. Most likely a latent homosexual, Shaka founded the Zulu Empire by allegedly developing his famous ‘horns of the buffalo’ tactics and short stabbing spears. The disorganized neighboring tribes were soon driven away or subjugated by the Zulus. Since no census existed the true extent of the devastating wars of conquest are unknown, but Boers trekking northward in the early 19th Century reported often finding the bleached bones of refugees from Shaka’s campaigns. Flynn, an Irish doctor that was held as a captive/guest of Shaka, provides accounts of the common practice of impalement for minor infractions such as accidentally coughing in the presence of the great King. Apparently Shaka would, on occasion, disembowel pregnant women to have a look at the developing fetus. A precocious interest in biology!
It is interesting to note that any one of these kingdoms is likely to have killed more negros than all the European colonial wars put together.
Happy Black Histry Munt. The Dutchman
Anyway, my point was that our government is founded upon the myth of equality. How’s that working out for us?
Sadly, it is probably impossible to untangle the fact that “All men are created equal” is not a complete sentence – it is totally qualified and limited by the following phrase regarding the Rights endowed by the Creator. The need for precision in writing cannot be overstated. Unfortunately, precision doesn’t make for soaring oratory.
“the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition.”
Just because a race is not as smart as your race doesn’t justify enslaving them. Also I don’t even believe the abolitionists were arguing that blacks were equal to whites but for the sake of argument let’s say they were arguing blacks were equal to whites, that still doesn’t automatically mean their message (slavery is wrong) is any less legitimate.
“the choice is clear: God bless the Confederate States of America!”
I hope you’re just being glib. For whatever faults you think our liberal, affirmative action, blacks out of control, society has, to say you’d prefer the slavey society of the Confederacy is ridiculous.
Lincoln kept saying they’d be allowed to keep their slaves, but those paranoid rednecks never listened and then they got what they deserved in the war.
“African blacks were a bunch of half-naked cannibal savages living in mud huts throwing spears at one another. They had no written language. They had no science or technology or industry. They had no culture in the usual sense of the word. They lived like wild animals. ”
So what? If they’re perfectly content with that type of society who are we to judge whether it’s “civilized” or not.
I think your equating civilization with general happiness. Of course to everyone in our present time going from iPhones and cars to huts and spears sounds like hell. But for the Africans in that that time period before they had contact with white Europeans they might have been perfectly happy with their primitive culture.
Now maybe they would’ve desired superior technology but that’s a moot point since nobody asked them.I don’t believe in the White Man’s Burden, or Christianity improving a culture or any of that. I think colonalism was wrong. The argument that it introduced technology and civilization to blacks is irrelevant since they never got to benefit from it.
“Slavery was the best thing that ever happened to blacks.”
The Africans would’ve been better off in, as you describe it, their “mud huts then slavery” and the Europeans left them alone. No matter how much you dress it up (slaves weren’t whipped, slaves weren’t sexually abused) slavery is still a horrible thing. And yes it’s bad when it happens to white europeans too which happened frequently and it’s a shame history is bent to only address black slavery but we’re talking about blacks now.
Anyway, if I gave you the choice would you rather be a slave in a advanced civilization or a savage living in a mud hut throwing spears and enjoying FREEDOM?
It really doesn’t matter if their American descendants benefited from it since as a whole it caused a lot of suffering.
If Aliens suddenly came to Earth and enslaved us then left 100 years later would the human race be going: “Ok slavery sucked but at least we have hovercraft technology now!!”
I cannot agree that slavery was right. It was wrong, even though it has left the American black population better off. It was wrong, and we are still paying the price today, in that there is an American black population.
It wasn’t only the south that was HBD aware. Recall this quotation:
“I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and political equality of the white and black races, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference between the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And in as much as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I as much as any other man am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race. I say upon this occasion I do not perceive that because the white man is to have the superior position the negro should be denied everything. I do not understand that because I do not want a negro woman for a slave I must necessarily want her for a wife. My understanding is that I can just let her alone.”
— Abraham Lincoln
Lincoln, incidentally, favored shipping blacks back to Africa, and also contemplated giving them their own lands on segregated “black reservations” (in W.T. Sherman’s autobiography you can find documents laying out the plans for such a reservation). If the south had avoided their rash and lawless secession and let cooler heads prevail, the American black population could have been gradually shipped back to Africa over the course of 20 years, just as the British shipped the slaves that supported them in the Revolutionary War back to Africa.
I’d like to say that this blog has hit a very good balance between seriousness of research, wit of writing, ranting about the terrible state of the world, offering practical means to change it, cheering people up with silly kittens and other tricks, not being afraid to offend delicate sensitivities, not being a total nazi racist asshole either, being considerate to blacks as human beings — and did I mention French gratuitous girls waking you up with croissants ?
Keep up the good work.
[Unamused: Thanks, appreciate it.]
Also look at the practical end of slavery: white people had to live in constant fear of a black uprising, ala Haiti. Which means living in a constant state of low level warfare in order to keep the slaves in line. Who wants to live like that? Plus the fact that a slave economy would not have adapted to an industrial system, meaning that if the CSA had won the Civil War, the South would have been left behind as the rest of the USA became an economic superpower.
Of course, DWLs and race hustlers could care less about the realities of slavery, anyway. It’s simply a tool with which the Eloi beat themselves up with their pathological guilt, and race hustlers use as an agitprop tool to get more concessions. Even if it could be somehow proven that slavery in America was a humane system, or never even existed at all, it would not make a difference. Slavery as an issue exists today because it is useful agitprop.
I say Kittehs deserve a full 30 day month, if not the vaunted 31.
Agreed : )
It’s funny when blacks try to guilt-trip whites by saying something like “all blacks in this country have some white genes because whites used to rape their slaves.”
That would mean that today’s blacks are descendants of slave owners. So today’s blacks should feel guilty because their ancestors owned (and raped) slaves.
The history of the Arab slave trade is very interesting, it shows something : Europeans and Arabs came to the same conclusions about the blacks and the Arabs didn’t found necessary to say that the whites are stupid ugly lazy animals to make them slaves.
For example : white slaves (the mamelouk) ruled Egypt for decades without anyone finding something to say about it, in Tunisia the founder of the first bey dynasty was an ancient Corsican slave and the founder of the second and last bey dynasty was an ancient Cretan slave, while black slaves were workers, cleaners and rarely accessed to upper social classes.
And we can find many examples in the literature that show that the slavery of whites in the Arab world didn’t give rise to some “racial constructs” making the whites inferior while Arabic scholars were saying that blacks are more stupid, less moral and more close to the animal than the other men.
It is also funny than when we read what middle-age arabic scholars wrote about Arabs we find the same biases than Europeans had against them : guileful, disingenuous, cupid and lazy.
So, one could think at this that the false “racial constructs” that prevent the coming of the real equal racial-neutral society doesn’t exist and that there is just biases against groups of population who are mainly true.
(Sorry for my bad english, I was sleeping next to radiator during english lessons at school)
But for the Africans in that that time period before they had contact with white Europeans they might have been perfectly happy with their primitive culture.
Yeah uucat but can’t you just dig that the slaves sold to slave owners in the US who included like Black men were slaves in like mother Africa so they did not have the choice homosapienshunned?
Let’s not forget that recent census figures showed that over 10% of current african americans are foreign born (add in 1st gen from African and that % rises). We’re getting to a point with blacks where the American blacks who celebrate black history month are more and more removed from the slave past. First, it’s been 150 years, so they might have a great-great grandparent who was a slave. Second, the amount of mixed blacks in relation to total black pop is far higher than any other racial group in America. Thirdly, now 10% of them are foreign born. The cry for black solidarity is a whining moan for a group to claim extra rights in our current victim culture.
I find it hysterical that blacks get a month to celebrate the fact that they have little to no history. Even what history they have, they cannot measure up to it today.
You know, speaking of the confederacy and since I’m likely to become a home owner this year I’ve been thinking of ways to keep whichever neighborhood I move into majority (or hopefully totally) White.
Idea #1 is to put up a confederate flag. What negro would move near such a blatant racist…and one who likely owns firearms….and who likely knows how to use them? Old Glory, even if I’m not a huge civil war fanatic or South buff (Why is MD so in between anyway?)
#2: NRA stickers. Why? Because like car alarms those “Brinks” or “ADT Home Security” signs in your front yard don’t deter criminals. I think an NRA sticker in each window would be more likely to.
#3: Crosses. On rural routes you often see one or a set of three crosses on a hillside or farm. How effective are they? Dunno, but couldn’t hurt.
#4: A noose on a tree: Just to be safe. I don’t want anyone misconstruing what my crime deterrent intentions are.
So if you could convince the majority of your neighbors to put up confederate flags (or marine corps flags, or NWF flags) I think you’d deter any prospective negro homebuyers. If you could get away with a subtle sign out in the front of the neighborhood (say, “Negros not Welcome in _______ Oaks”, or “Section 8 Scumbags not Welcome”) and develop a reputation throughout the county for being negro unfriendly then I think one could achieve relative peace of mind.
Any why not? Negros do it all the time. Every time I see a basketball court or rusted 3′ chain link fences or pit bulls or glass on the street I pass through and don’t come back. When I see yards and structures not maintained and litter strewn about I know that the people here don’t take pride in their community and that’s not somewhere I want to live.
If they’re allowed to drive away White people in this manner then why not us in our own manner? Something to think about.
Dear Unamused,
Slavery of Africans was wrong primarily for moral reasons. Africans may have the curse of Ham, but they are still our human brethren. I admire you reactionary politics, but to even appear to support slavery is going too far. Maybe you know that, and know that readers look for stronger and stronger racial shock value. Like in an amusement park, they want steeper and steeper plunges into unamusement. You joke about “racial hatred”, but you know that some people are in it for that part of the ride.
Nice exposure of sham of the Black History Month. Here is how I think of all of the negro placating we have going on in this country: the negroes have us by the balls. If we don’t give them homage in polite fiction, EBT, free housing, and free daycare, they will riot and kill White Americans.
Jay-Z, Waka Flocka, Gucci Mane, and other rappers have high status, and can cause negroes to misbehave even worse with even viler songs, if they are not given what they want. The elite blacks even hint at the power of their minions to be more violent if their rabble doesn’t get some privilege (Charles Rangel, Al Sharpton etc).
If you are going to be a race realist, you have to face this fact:
Black America has got a gun to America’s head (inner cities, every city), and if you don’t give them what they want, they will kill you.
It’s a nationwide stickup, and you got to give the negroes credit for their cleverness in setting this shakedown up.
That is why we need these polite fictions. The people at the top amongst the Whites know this, with a gun held to every American city, there is not much they can do.
Oh, memekitten, I fear you are out of touch with reality.
Please explain how an air jordan wearing, I-phone having, gold toof sporting, unworthy plunderer of the section 8 and other welfare programs is worse off than his stick hut living in, pooping on the beach en masse, fistulas getting, limbs severed, cannibalized, clitoris mutilating African brutha? If not for Slavery, Barry Soetero would never have had the chance to become our fearless leader.
So yeah, I agree with the author: Slavery sucks because it brought congenitally low IQ people into the population. Add to that a propensity for shockingly brutal tendencies and multiple generations of whining about the slavery that brought them out of the world’s worst poverty and misery, and I’d have to call you ungrateful.
P.S. Freedom? How can you be free when every day you have to worry about rape, brutal murder, and the opposing tribe capturing your ass and selling you to the slavers? Africans engaged in slavery before the white man. The difference is, we freed them and gave them stuff they never earned or deserved for the most part.
Off topic, but ominous:
The Georgia courts just dealt america its final death blow, and the disastrous decision is nowhere to be found on “our” conservative sites!
Meanwhile Hugh Hewett has FINALLY woken up to the fact that this traitorous POS of a fake president, is anti-catholic.
bu-bye america. We failed to protect what we were given, mostly to prop up a violent, intellectually inept race of “people”, and will now reap what we sowed.
Bad job all around. But hey, isn’t survivor on, or something?
http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/02/obama_wins_georgia_ballot_challenge.html
Dewey,
Sweep the Leg,
Why so defeatist today? I’m thinking up ways to deter blacks from purchasing homes near me and to convince any current blacks to GTFO. Once I buy my home, likely this year, I’ll be able to implement some of my ideas.
If I can do it and raise my property values, and convince fellow White neighbors to do so as well I might be able to create an upward spiral of growth, prosperity and peace of mind….kinda like we did decades ago.
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I have some good stories from this past week too. On Thursday leaving school (I park off campus and walk) I came to a three way intersection where I was going straight and there’s a church and a nice street full of nice homes off the the left. A group of 4 blacks (one buck and three breeders) were carrying on. The buck was demonstraiting his thugness by chasing the girls and saying, litterally, “I wan chu dead woman!”
Now at that time another White kid, younger than me, was passing the opposite way and was about to pass the negros like I had just done. I shook my head about 10 paces away and when we passed I said: “This is why I’m moving out to Carroll County.” He laughed. He knew.
Then on Friday at work I was talking to one of my peers who was filling out an application for a restaurant job. He was at a restaurant before but got fired because of shytty black customers, so he told me. He was applying to work at a VERY upscale restaurant, as in $40-60 entrees. I told him I support anyone who moves on to bigger and better things and he said in front of me and TWO OTHER Whites guys “As long as I don’t have to deal with blacks I’m good.”
I LOVED IT. So you see guys. It’s open, it’s out there. People are catching on. Now I’m off for the day, turn off the tele and go spread some fliers or something. Tomorrow I’m going to a sign waving event for Ron Paul from 12-2p.m. Do you know what my sign on a stick says in big bold black sharpie? It says: Ron Paul IS the Super Bowl.
And then I’ll probably go watch the game for once with some buds, not those buds, if I’m drinking it’s going to be real drinks.
Moral of the story, my wonderful stories, is don’t be so down and defeatist. It’s the reason I stopped posting on SF, because those clowns never could act and whined about how the world’s ending. It’s getting better guys, the fence-sitters are catching on.
@W74
I’m happy you are enjoying yourself.
The decision by that court in Georgia, however, is far bigger than us “waking up”, avoiding [blacks], etc. It is a monumentally destructive decision for america. Monumentally. Destructive. Add to that the utter silence from any and all on “our” side, and we can wake up all we want.
Our openly racist (the REAL kind), anti-american, anti-Catholic, pro-muslim, traitorous POS “president”, has set an enormous precedent in thumbing his nose in direct opposition to the law. Not the that may be against the law kind of thing. He fucking straight up told a court to get fucked, and WON, and NO ONE gives a shit!
At this point, rather than being impeached and jailed as he surely deserves, he has made absolutely clear that the constitution is DEAD. Done. Finished. He is allowed this because he is black.
Talk about blacks ruining everything they touch? Look at the sum of his racist existence/works, and at the complicity of whites – liberal and conservative alike – in allowing it.
Not ranting at you. I’m guessing that you are a bit younger than I. Keep optimistic and avoid [blacks] at all cost. I do. But this decision is truly horrifying…
@ Dewey
“…If you are going to be a race realist, you have to face this fact:
Black America has got a gun to America’s head (inner cities, every city), and if you don’t give them what thry want, they will kill you…”
These are our “human brethren”? They may take a human form, and walk on their hind legs, but our brethren? Our brethren hate us and are working for our demise, and raping our women, and corrupting our culture, and violently attacking, etc. Yet they are our brethren?
No sale. They are anything but our brethren. They do not mix with any culture on earth – even their OWN KIND enslaved them! They destroy everything they touch. If you feel the need to have them near you, you can enslave them or live in total segregation. Nothing else works, or ever has, with our “brethren”.
Sweep the leg: Point taken, they are like the perpetually violent, drug abusing, sister-raping brother. The kind of brethren you need to ostracize, and keep very distant.
W74 – I feel your optimism as well, as all of our subtle changes in conversation to race realism, are starting to seep through the public as a whole. The next generation of kids will certainly NOT be dumb liberals, walking Eloi. They will clash with the people now in their 30s, who bought the pro-Black propaganda hook line and sinker.
However, things have to be more blatant before people start really waking up. Take a look at this story out of Dallas:
http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark/2012/02/whats_one_way_to_hurt_a_racist.php
Unamused: I don’t think you are pro-slavery or anything, I’m just worried your views will be to inaccessible to noobs to race realism, who will automatically condemn you.
I started on your site as a noob fresh from reading “Race, Evolution, and Behavior” by Philippe Rushton, and as a graduate of an “Urban America” education.
Your content is becoming “advanced”, to keep up with the demand for more penetrating insights. I think the cats and faeries keep the noobs on the site.
I think our major problem is this:
THEY are in an all out war. They are violent in both word and deed. They put no brakes on their behaviors or mouths. They do not bother to even pretend to hide their motives. They want us dead and have the Obama administration fully behind them…
WE are STILL worried about saying the right thing, not offending, not giving them “ammunition” they can use against us…
Now I fully understand someone not going off about “niggers” at work. You WILL be fired. Got that. But anonymously, online, we STILL have to behave? To what end? If the term “black hole” is rayciss, who the fuck really cares anymore?
As has been said elsewhere, we need our own lawyers to fight back. To constantly harass the NAACP, and the like. To jam it back in their faces. To defend against countless lawsuits that are designed to silence us, and give away our jobs to the undeserving. To get back OUR civil rights.
Ooooh, unamused likes slavery! Ooooh! That’s too far!
Bull shit. Raping 30,000 of our women every year is too far; losing our rights to private property and free association, is too far.
So damn tired…
We may then have another one of those classic late Western military problems on our hands: long-term guerrilla warfare, with sympathetic propaganda supporting the guerrillas.
Due to “human rights”, a civilization can no longer defend itself against an enemy with no concern for human rights. This is happening worldwide. Europe, due to human rights, cannot deport all of its criminal, genetically dangerous, fast-breeding miscreants.
The US military, fighting people who want to explode bombs in American cities, has to walk with tender footfalls to avoid offending delicate sensibilities about warfare, and put itself in harms way to avoid hurting openly collaborating civilians.
Sweep the leg, good gleaning:
It’s certainly asymmetrical warfare.
The Blacks are in an asymmetrical war with White America.
What a nice comments thread.
memekitten:
Okay, yes, both of those are true statements. Let me just point out that while I did say “the South was right,” that was qualified by “Let me be clear: I don’t want to bring back slavery,” and later, “whites felt that abolishing slavery was the right thing to do.” And while I did say “God bless the Confederate States of America,” that was in the context of comparing a government based on “the assumption — the lie — of the equality of races” versus “a government founded upon exactly the opposite idea, which we call human biodiversity,” not comparing “our liberal, affirmative action, blacks out of control, society” to “the slavey society of the Confederacy.”
As I said to bob above: for what it’s worth, I also happen to agree that slavery is immoral, so I do not agree with the entire Alexander Stephens quote (e.g., “slavery — subordination to the superior race — is his natural and normal condition”). It was, I believe, for essentially moral reasons that white people freed the slaves, which was not in itself a bad idea. Their “huge mistake” was that they did not subsequently ship all the freed slaves back to Africa.
“So what? If they’re perfectly content with that type of society who are we to judge whether it’s ‘civilized’ or not.”
I don’t know how to answer your first question, except to remind you that this is Black History Month. As for your second question, obviously we who have written languages and dictionaries and words for complicated concepts like “civilized” (all of which Africans, to the best of my knowledge, never invented) are the ones who can and must judge whether or not some society is civilized.
As for the Africans being better off in their mud huts, recall my Short History of Slavery: African slaves were captured by Arabs and other African blacks, and they were sold to Arabs and other African blacks and whites and American Indians. Europeans weren’t trekking out into the jungle with nets. They didn’t need to. We shouldn’t be comparing free Africans living in a primitive society to enslaved Africans in America, but rather enslaved Africans in Africa to enslaved Africans in America. Your talk of “FREEDOM” is therefore misleading.
Again, all it takes to create black slavery is black people. If the Europeans had “left them alone” (e.g., no slavery or colonialism by whites), if everyone had left them alone (e.g., no slavery by Arabs), all black people today would be living as they do in Liberia, the Congo, Zimbabwe, Somalia, Haiti — maybe even worse off.
And I’d say it matters a hell of a lot that “their American descendants benefited from it,” since we (including those American descendants) are living in the present, not 150 years ago.
If aliens came to Earth, found that humans had already enslaved each other, took the slaves to their home planet (as slaves, of course), then later set their descendants free to live in a relative paradise… well, arguably there are a lot of villains and no real heroes in this story, but at least the aliens eventually got around to abolishing slavery! At least in the end they (more than) made up for their mistakes. (The aliens represent Europeans.)
Call it “historical realism”: by today’s standards, everyone used to be bad, but some of them were less bad than others.
Pechorin: I’ll refer to my previous comment for my more nuanced take on slavery. As I said in the post,
You may well be right about what would have happened if “the south had avoided their rash and lawless secession and let cooler heads prevail.” I claim only that “the South was right” to the extent described in the original post: “the choice” between race denialism and race realism.
Californian: Those are excellent reasons to oppose actual slavery, and excellent reasons to oppose the teaching of our modern mythology of slavery.
Brz: Very interesting, thank you. Your English is quite good, by the way.
Dewey (first comment): Already, I think I’ve said my piece about how bad slavery was, so I’ll just refer you to my comments above for that.
Let’s skip to white America’s contract with black America, i.e., “If we don’t give them homage in polite fiction, EBTs, free housing, and free daycare, they will riot and kill White Americans.” American Renaissance had an excellent article on this back in August, 2011: “Are Flash Mobs Abrogating the Treaty?”
I don’t know if I would go so far as to give them credit for their supposed “cleverness in setting this shakedown up.” Seems more opportunistic than “cleverly set up” to me. Anyway, I think at this point the risks are outweighed by the cost of the polite fictions coupled with the cost of black people aren’t abiding by the terms of this agreement anymore.
We need to end these polite fictions. Now.
Dewey, the polite fictions will soon be obliterated by cold reality. Technology is expanding too rapidly for low IQ people to be of consequence. Stupid people can’t take over an advanced society. That advanced society will one day stop caterting to the monkeyshines, and they will cease to be of any concern. In the meantime, just hang out in bookstores and libraries. The ghetto undertow seems to be allergic to those venues.
@W74 I was reading an article (can’t find it right now) but it was talking about the absolute hysterical IRONY that all the ‘progressive’ cities such Portland, Seattle, Austin, San Francisco have some of the lowest black populations- and yet they’re full to the brim with white liberals who are practically begging to lick black people’s asses.
You could say that it’s because of the hypocrisy of white liberals but the real reason is that blacks absolutely DESPISE this ‘progressive’ neo-hippie whiter than white culture with it’s green tea sipping coffee houses, Portishead, & ‘intellectual’ all night debates.
And the irony is that these ‘progressive’ types are constantly trying to recruit blacks – ‘save’ them & transform them into something more like themselves. But blacks are extremely happy acting like the feral beasts they are in their own culture of hopelessness and crime.
I live in Austin & I can attest to all of this- it just never hit me until I read the article. I’ve heard blacks say they HATE Austin with a passion! LOL!!! All of our ‘Stuff White People Like’ culture is like RAID/Kryptonite to them. We have some of the lowest crime of any city & while we have blacks here, they simply have no where to really BE or anywhere where they feel comfortable to chimp.
Oh course me, with my views on blacks, have to keep my mouth shut- but it’s a very small price to pay for all the wonderful benefits. If you’re REALLY serious about getting away from blacks & still live in an urban area then here is about as good as it gets.
Found it!
http://www.newgeography.com/content/001110-the-white-city
(One of the comments)
“While there are some generalizations, the article is in line with the way I feel at times as a resident of Austin. I moved here for lifestyle, tech work, and the concept that I was moving to a place that was progressive in thought and action for my black children. Although there are some wonderful people here the label of “progressive and diverse” is not the first thing that always comes to mind. Secular and self-centered are sometimes more descriptive labels for this town. The city is very segregated and at times not very accepting of other cultures and races. None of the adverse comments in previous posts addressed how they or their cities engage or interact with their current black populations but continually ask “what is diversity” or why is it important or what is the criteria for diversity. The black population in Austin continues to get smaller every year as its black professionals and middle class move to other places where they feel accepted. The poor areas of town are neglected and simply avoided unless there is some trendy bar or nightclub. Most people don’t care if the people in those areas prosper because it does not affect them at all or randomly affects them in a negative stereotypical sort of way.”
He says it like that’s a BAD thing. lol
We know that among the Romans, about the Augustan age especially, the condition of their slaves was much more deplorable than that of the blacks on the continent of America. The two sexes were confined in separate apartments, because to raise a child cost the master more than to buy one. Cato, for a very restricted indulgence to his slaves in this particular, took from them a certain price. But in this country the slaves multiply as fast as the free inhabitants. Their situation and manners place the commerce between the two sexes almost without restraint…With the Romans, the regular method of taking the evidence of their slaves was under torture. Here it has been thought better never to resort to their evidence. When a master was murdered, all his slaves, in the same house, or within hearing, were condemned to death. Here punishment falls on the guilty only, and as precise proof is required against him as against a freeman. Yet notwithstanding these and other discouraging circumstances among the Romans, their slaves were often their rarest artists. They excelled too in science, insomuch as to be usually employed as tutors to their master’s children. Epictetus, Diogenes, Phaedon, Terence, and Phaedrus, were slaves. But they were of the race of whites. It is not their condition then, but nature, which has produced the distinction.
(P.S. This is a neat trick. You could try it w/other photos.)
I can think of something invented by blacks:
The Open Housing Ideology
To wit–
AFAIK, blacks invented the notion that people are freer when Federal bureaucrats prohibit local authorities from maintaining the character of ethnic neighborhoods.
This also means that blacks invented the notion that a Constitution which says nothing about housing per se, but guarantees equal protection of the laws, also allows Congress to pass laws forcing people (both communities and individuals) to accept as neighbors people that they don’t want to accept. I.e., equal protection of the laws means that, since the law allows neighborhoods to accept people of their own race, a law can also force neighborhoods to accept people of other races.
(If they say that equal protection of the laws means that if I allow my friends into my house, I must also allow criminals into my home, I will reaction with chagrin and indignance.)
The big laugh is, the only reason this move was considered pro-black was that distinctly black neighborhoods would never have to formally prohibit whites or Asians from moving there. I’ll wager that sex crimes, muggings, and homicide (scroll midway down for my comments) are quite enough of a deterrent. Only an American leftist would say, “Since no one, even blacks, should ever have to live among blacks, we’ll force everyone else to accept them,” and consider it a big compliment to blacks.
Reality, I loved this quote:
Most people don’t care if the people in those areas prosper because it does not affect them at all or randomly affects them in a negative stereotypical sort of way.
Randomly affects them in a negative stereotypical sort of way. Right. I have this same problem in South Africa. I believe this is known colloquially in America as TNB. Ain’t PC-speak grand?
Sweep the Leg, I like the cut of your jib. Stay sane, stay strong.
I always wondered why Black History Month never mentions Marie Thereze Coincoin-I guess being a black woman who owned black slaves and built a very successful and prosperous life for her family doesn’t count. She actually lived amongst wealthy whites and sided with the Confederacy. Isn’t that history?
The problem with the history of slavery is that it is viewed in absolutes-African slave owners were brutal because their slaves were cheap and disposable. European slave owners had a considerable investment, so the idea that they brutalized their valuable property is ludicrous, but we only see history painted by the black experience-Brutality. You can certainly hold that slavery is wrong AND acknowledge the situation of American slaves was far more humane than those left on the Dark continent.
The black propensity for obsessing on the past and seeming inability to plan for the future is their undoing. People with such weak reasoning skills can never have a propserous society as a majority. I do see intelligent blacks moving away and distancing themselves from the baboonish behaivor of their ghetto kin. The key is for them to stand up and discredit not only the undertow, but the DWLs who have created it.
Unamused If the Europeans had “left them alone” (e.g., no slavery or colonialism by whites), if everyone had left them alone (e.g., no slavery by Arabs), all black people today would be living as they do in Liberia, the Congo, Zimbabwe, Somalia, Haiti — maybe even worse off.
You give them too much credit. If Europeans had completely ignored Africa, life would probably still be similar to the way it was before European contact. There would be no developed cities.
Ray Cyst – I have not seen the commecial, do you know what station you might have seen it on?
Unamused — Whats going on here?:
“Disparate impact does not imply disparate treatment.”
I WILL steal that from you just as sure as Steve Sailer time traveled back to steal your pointed question of “I don’t know if it’s racist or not, but is it true?”
Because I’m in a generous mood, you can have: Race isn’t a social construct, racial equality is.
Facts and the truth are never racist.
panjoomby said — but hey, blacks invented black history month, didn’t they? :)
And they invented Black Aids Day too! Celebrating the “Down Low” Culture!
Thomas Jefferson – white innovation is wrong to ignore the traffic light.
George Carver is definitely my favorite. If smashing a peanut is an invention, I suppose some eskimo who watched an ice cube melt “invented” water.
Negroes. Sheesh…
Bob: there is no line between race realism and racism. Racism just means thinking races are different. It’s not a crime.
Thomas Jefferson: the digits in the top left hand corner of the photograph. What do I win?
Unamused: “As for your second question, obviously we who have written languages and dictionaries and words for complicated concepts like “civilized” (all of which Africans, to the best of my knowledge, never invented)”
Ethiopians (with Eritreans) have a written language that goes way back. It uses syllables, kind of like Japanese, except that there is a pattern. Ethiopians are a bit different from other black people.
In addition to smashing up peanuts, blacks have succeeded in destroying the public school system of all major American cities.
http://youtu.be/erhfjpL5Sng http://youtu.be/YVrTpKcqpBM
Another aspect of Black history in honor of Black History Month. Let’s think of more “achievements”.
@ Dewey
Lol. They didn’t even invent riots. They just perfected them…
Copy & pasted from Dictionary.com just now:
It’s odd that the definition of the word is mysteriously ‘expanding’ like the ass of a KFC gobbling, Colt 45 slurping [black person]. 6 months ago on Dictionary.com the definition was just “the idea that one’s own race is superior to all others” as the definitive total meaning of the word- period, end of story. NOW that’s almost a footnote AND they’ve changed the wording to “one’s own race is superior” and left off the “to all others.” And I’ll tell you why…
Because it was probably pointed out to Satan’s Administrative Assistants who are the slithering PC snakes that lord over places of authority like this, that EVERY race despises [blacks]!!! If you see that your race along with virtually every OTHER race as being far superior in every way imaginable to [blacks], then that isn’t ‘racism’ — well, at least not the definition they were peddling 6 months ago. That would be the ‘upside down’ version of that definition or the opposite. You don’t have to see your own race as superior to ALL others to despise the [blacks].
Hell, you could see your own race as somewhere below Chinese Mexicans and STILL rather have a 48 hour root canal marathon than have to spend even 15 seconds around [blacks] with a 70 I.Q. “Well, we just can’t have that!! We’ve got to change the definition quick before too many people catch on!!” And once again evil triumphs & wins the day.
It’s also interesting that they have now added to the definition, “a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement.” Maybe they added that either because we are now in fact hopelessly lost within the bowels of Black History Month, or they must be reading Unamusement Park and had to make the amendment just for us!
And the fact that [blacks] haven’t achieved anything (assuming we all agree that the definition of ‘achievement’ isn’t transforming Detroit into a post nuclear looking Hiroshima & driving away all the white people) isn’t even a ‘belief,’ it’s simply a concrete truth. As to if it is because of their race, well, far be it from ME to state something definitively like THAT when there’s enough evidence of it to fill the Grand Canyon. Heaven forbid. But evidence IS what they use to convict criminals in a court of law after all. Why can’t we use it in the court of public opinion as well?
rjp: Just a rhetorical strategy from my Talking About Race series. See here and here.
Thank you anonymous, that’s interesting. That Ethiopian language, “Ge’ez,” is classified as “Semitic.” Are these the Ethiopian Jews I’ve heard so much about? The real ones, not the fake (black) ones currently destroying Israel?
AH, NO! I noticed you took out all my wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans & replaced them all with {blacks}. You mean I can’t say [highly creative terms for “African-Americans” — U]?!?
I would NEVER use the ‘N’ word.. perish the thought. What is this? The first politically correct racial hate site?
Yeah, I know it’s disappointing, Reality. I’m pretty sure you’re joking, but this is an important subject. I have carefully considered the matter of “wonderfully descriptive names” for racial minorities, and here is my conclusion:
I cannot stand the thought of someone using your highly creative terminology as an excuse to ignore your ideas. Or mine. Or anyone else’s. Especially if that someone is new to race realism/white rights, on the fence, or just curious.
It is entirely tactical. And just for the record, we’re not really a “racial hate site.”
Valid point. Paul Kersey asked his readers a while back to please refrain from usage of certain words and/or over the top speech in the comments section of SBPDL- but he hasn’t enforced it .. so as I’m sitting here reading the comments at this very moment on his site to one of his recent articles, it’s all starting to read like Chimpout 2.0.
“Get yur guns and give dem dam N****** wat dey got comin’!! The EBT cards are gonna run out and I’m ready, Goddamn it!”
Yes, yes, yes, I think we all understand. I GOT it. They are pickup driving patriots.. yet they’re not commenting right now.. why? OH, that’s right – the SUPERBOWL is on. And what is the NFL..? 60-70% BLACK- the very reason I stopped watching sports YEARS ago. Me, someone who the rednecks would probably dismiss as a candy ass in my ivory ‘progressive’ tower because I wear shirts from Macy’s. Yet I’M the one who is TRULY repelled to the point I boycott professional football.
Curious.
Ge’ez, not “Ge’ek”. (I’m a Ge’ek. :^)
The Ethiopic languages are, yes, Semitic. They are related to South Arabian languages now mostly dead. The Ethiopic language I was exposed to was Amharic, when I was in Israel. I liked the Ethiopian “beta israel” / “falasha” / “kushis” personally, although they do hold to a number of practices which stretch the meaning of “Jew” to its utmost limit. (It was the Yemeni Jews who were scum.)
But then the Dead Sea Scrolls arrived and showed us that, yeah, the Beta Israel had honestly copied Enoch and Jubilees and hadn’t just made all that shit up.
So I wouldn’t call the Kushi Jews fake; assuming you meant the Falasha, and not the black American converts. They are a little misguided though. Enoch and Jubilees were booted from the Old Testament for a reason.
I would say that the people who are ruining Israel are first the Muslims, secondly the secular Eloi Leftists, thirdly the freeloading Shas bastards. If the Falashas are a problem, they are a very distant fourth.
[Unamused: Oops! Yes, “Ge’ez” not “Ge’ek” — I blame Google’s auto-correct feature.]
As for Ethiopic literature, it wasn’t just Jews. It’s also Christians. Although the Ethiopic Church is also… alien to us westerners. They too are very archaic, with much more emphasis on angels. They copied Enoch and Jubilees as well.
Christian and Jew in Ethiopia, I get the impression, were closer together than they were in, say, the Ukraine. And, perhaps, closer to each other than either are to any of us.
How about a WHITE History Month? And that can be March. I’ve been putting off making a poster of it. I make lots & lots of posters.
Or just ‘White Male Appreciation Month.’ It’ll have white women & minorities in the poster saying. “thanks white men, for all your wonderful inventions that make life worth living & maintaining everything & making our lives so much easier… otherwise we’d be back to living in our respective 3rd world shitholes riding donkeys and eating monkey dung.”
“Oh, and thanks for being the only ones who will save our asses (even from ourselves) when there’s a natural disaster because everyone is too cowardly & lazy to even bother.”
Just a test…
Eggplant.
Can we still haz that? Maybe with white kittens attacking and/or frolicking around them?
I want to know how the race that not only supposedly invented everything that makes modern society possible yet also did amazing things in antiquity like build pyramids and spaceships, destroys everything it is around?
Once they get to be 25+ percent of a city in America, that city is severely impacted by decay and crime, if not ruined by it.
…wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans…
If one wants to use these “wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans” then here is my recommendation: go to any college campus in America, stand on the front steps of the Black Studies Department with a megaphone, and use them all you want. Then turn the incident into a free speech issue. If the campus tries to ban you, bring them to court on First Amendment grounds. If the students try to stop you, then show us your mettle by defending yourself physically. Make a video of the incident and post it online. Throw the other side on the defensive by pointing out their repression and hypocrisy. “Free speech” worked for Mario Savio and triggered a revolution.
But really, it’s getting tiring to see people vent anonymously online by using “wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans.” What does it gain us? Race realists already understand the point. But casual visitors are going to be turned off by the ranting. And those casual middle-of-the-road visitors are needed to turn this thing into a real movement. Where race realism is effective online is in stating the facts clearly and in getting people to connect the statistics (on relative IQs, crime rates, etc.) to what they see around them. In turn, this gives people the intellectual tools they need to resist the rising tide of multicultism.
Why not take all that energy that currently goes into posting “wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans” and instead do something in the real world? Perhaps fly a Confederate battleflag and turn it into an act of free speech guerrilla theater? Or go to your city council and state the facts about relative black and white crime levels? Or organize a boycott of liberal media? Or any number of things?
I emphasize getting out in the real world and doing real things, such as putting up flyers, because you quickly find out which tactics work and which do not.
Those black invention myths. . .
If you do an image search on the black inventors its notable that most of them are ‘politically’ black rather than actually African ie most of them have some (or a lot of) white ancestry.
“I emphasize getting out in the real world..”
“Or go to your city council and state the facts about relative black and white crime levels?”
uh, riiiight.. are you sure you’ve ever even been out into the ‘real world?’ LOL! Getting lectures from clueless people with no experience in the real world is SO FUN!
uh, riiiight.. are you sure you’ve ever even been out into the ‘real world?’
One of my first political demonstrations was a protest against forced busing. I have done flyering. And picketed against campus leftists. And have addressed my city council on various issues. And worked with groups which are fighting against PC.
If anyone believes that race realists can gain anything by using “…wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans…” then please give us a demonstration of how it is to be done.
LOL. Well, let me bring you up to speed, Mr. Occupy. This is 2012 & people are being lead out in matching pairs of handcuffs for daring to speak at city council meetings AT ALL. You might have noticed something in news about how we’re becoming more of a police state everyday? Might want to look into that. And then to bring up a topic like THAT when half the faces of the city council you’re looking at are BLACK & with the current regime in power, that’s going to get you buried under the jail.
And political demonstrations are dead, stale and horribly outdated and not only are they completely ineffective, they are counterproductive as the ‘Occupy’ demonstrations *ahem* demonstrated. People with jobs in the real world just look at you like an idiot & dismiss you out of hand. LOL To think people are still using 1960s tactics in 2012. Can’t you even come up with something original? Something other than your GRANDPARENTS might have participated in? haHHAHA!!
Good point, Lurker. Some examples in this comment.
There’s no need to be so abrasive, Reality. After all, Californian is 100% on our side (whatever that means). You merely disagree with him over tactics. And I don’t think you’re listening to him as carefully as you should.
You have been venting on the Internet with “wonderfully descriptive names for African Americans.” That would be fine, except that it is counterproductive. The problem of racial slurs in the race realism community is a very real one. As Californian pointed out, “casual visitors are going to be turned off by the ranting. And those casual middle-of-the-road visitors are needed to turn this thing into a real movement.”
As for what works or doesn’t work in the real world: (1) Californian says he’s done it and I take him at his word. (2) We certainly need to do something in the real world. (3) I don’t see any suggestions from you, but we would very much like to hear them.
These remarks by Californian bear repeating:
The link below is an ad on youtube that my son wrote for his new book, The Alchemy of Number Theory.
[…]
If you like it and want no further insight, that’s great; if you want to know more you can link to the Prime Thesis here:
https://sites.google.com/site/primenumbertheory/
[Unamused: Unfortunately, this is hopelessly off-topic for my entire website. You do make some good points, though:]
And make sure your kids understand math.
And The Creator.
As the dad of the author of this book, I can only tell you that if you want to be a philosopher (and be a good one), you have to be logical and this book gives you the tools to do just that. And you will not find this kind of rigor in government run schools today. […]
Thanks and shalom.
WarriorClass
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@Unamused Actually I had already acknowledged & agreed with you in regards to names & moved on from the topic, & had even begun talking about the idea of a ‘White History Month’ as a poster (speaking of posters, I emailed you a few of mine to your gmail address) not to mention it IS your site & I’ve never been one to not follow rules, also not to mention it was all just in good fun.
But then out of nowhere like an African American in a Red Lobster smashing a waitress in the face with a glass, he pounced on it & turned it into some kind of sudden challenge in strategy (???) which was as out of place as ordering a Jumbo Jack at a Chuckey Cheese.. I didn’t see descriptive names for African Americans as any kind of ‘strategy’ for anything to begin with (???) & thought it was more bizarre than anything.
Which I tried to laugh off, but then with great condescending persistence he tried to shove all down my throat- which is irritating enough, but the ideas themselves are questionable as I explained to him. I didn’t want to be harsh but he certainly was looking for a fight, so I gave it to him. Without sounding like someone who says, “Well, he started it,” well, he started it.
As far as ideas.. I’ve been doing posters for over ten years now- not so much about race, but as I mentioned in my email to you I’m certainly open to doing them. As far as standing on a street corner with a home made sign .. well, now that the Occupiers & Slutwalkers have now (mostly) gone home we see that everything is EXACTLY the same. That sort of thing is referred to as ‘direct action’ (to be kind) politically – like environmentalists tying themselves to trees. Maybe we could all go the the hood and chain ourselves to Hoopties. Now THAT is sure to bring about some interesting results, results including, but not limited to, wooden boxes 6 feet underground.
If you really want to bring about political, legal & cultural change, you have to organize a real political organization to lobby to politicians as well as raise funds to fight court battles over constitutional issues. But most people won’t do that – they HATE slow, methodical, well planned out courses of action and real organization- especially stoners, who’s attention span is only long enough to throw tantrums in the street dressed like freaks or cause scenes down at city hall that change nothing but their own personal arrest records.
I have a compromise solution.
Regarding the use of “Colorfully nuanced terms for African Americans” we should endeavor to use the words N*gger and Negro wherever possible. I think we all know the deal.
In real life (at work for example) we can use colorful terms which we’d be able to back up by saying that whatever any unintended recipients happened to hear were misheard and taken out of context. You can’t really justify having the word N*gger taken out of context when pulled into HR at work.
Good comments all around from Californian, Dewey, Reality, Zimreal, Lurker and Hunter Marrow (new guy?). Keep thinking. Keep spreading the word! Also welcome to the newbies, and the anonymous though I’d suggest getting a name and stop being strangers. People are waking up. People are no longer sitting on the fence, they are jumping off into our side of the camp.
[unamused: gratuitous censorship]
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Having said the above I think it’s story time.
I was talking to a long-term customer at work. I see this guy about every week and a half and we were talking about home purchases since we’re both (at his job and my full-time job) in the business of fixing places up. Well HE said: “You don’t want to move into a place that’s going to have negative demographic shifts” and RIGHT THEN a black chick walked up, understood what we were talking about (scumbags just like her, and SHE individually is at the bottom of the barrel), and rolled her eyes in disgust.
Can’t pull me into HR for what a customer said, but this chick has tried to get me in the past. So all I’m saying is, is be careful.
But, people are waking up. You just have to talk to them, use a few key “feeler” words to gauge their sentiments on race issues, and BOOM, they’ll talk about them in every conversation from then on. Didn’t yo mamma teach you not to talk to strangers? Well, it’s ok. Most of them are very good….very understanding….people.
Pechorin wrote..
“If the south had avoided their rash and lawless secession”
How exactly was it rash and lawless?
I think a lot of people here ought to read this excellent summary on the WBTS by PJB.
http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/2009/02/12/mr-lincolns-war-an-irrepressible-conflict/
“Some, like “higher interest rates for mortgages,” are directly caused by race differences in behavior: to a bank, the average African-American represents a bigger gamble than the average European-American — or the average Chinese-American, for that matter.”
This whole paragraph is a myth. Decisions on loan applications are based on credit scores. Applicants don’t have to attach a picture to their applications to be considered. Super Banks, whose emergence was possible because of banking deregulation in 1988, have centralized loan processing departments, far removed from contact with applicants. Gone are the days of the fat cat, white, male bank president denying loans to blacks because of the color of their skin.
Redlining is also a myth. If I were to apply for a mortgage in the worst ghetto I would still be approved, based on my credit score ALONE. I am not even employed anymore, but have a score of 810. Credit scores are determined exclusively on an individual’s payment history. Poor people can have outstanding credit scores; similarly, the wealthy can have terrible credit. It is all based on credit, or making a promise to pay, and if they actually do. Those with poor credit scores have demonstrated an INABILITY or DISINCLINATION to PAY THEIR BILLS – IN FULL – ON TIME. Why should lenders be forced by the government to loan money to credit risks?
[Unamused: Well, to be fair, I didn’t say the banks were actually basing their decisions on race, just that race differences in behavior directly cause higher interest rates through mortgages. You can say “race differences in behavior directly cause low credit scores, and those cause higher interest rates,” but it’s still pretty direct.]
[Unamused: Well, to be fair, I didn’t say the banks were actually basing their decisions on race, just that race differences in behavior directly cause higher interest rates through mortgages. You can say “race differences in behavior directly cause low credit scores, and those cause higher interest rates,” but it’s still pretty direct.]
My apologies if you thought I was being contrary…that was not my intention, but rather to emphasize that when banks consider some people a greater risk than others it isn’t because of their color. I completely agree that it is behavior (not paying one’s bills) that causes low credit scores which results in higher interest rates.
Actually LL the primary determinant for size of a loan is INCOME. Being unemployed would not help you at all. Income is 4/5ths of the process.
After that hurdle is debt. That gets factored against your income and must meet a per-determined percentage. In my case: none. I pay for everything in cash, check (like the three cars I’ve owned), or a CC which I pay off every month. Generally debts must be 1/3rd of what you’re borrowing and in the past banks could assume you’d pay 1/3rd on the mortgage and the last 1/3rd on incidental life expenses.
Then comes credit. Credit is a funny thing to determine, but it does determine these weird little things called “points.” Points are essentially add-ons to flat rate interest rates. For example the flat rate might be 4.00% for optimal “prime” borrowers, but someone less than prime might have 0.25 “points” (or 0.50, or 1.25 for that matter) tacked on to that flat rate.
You must clear each and every one of these hurdles to obtain the amount you wish to borrow, for whatever your goal is (and you should have a goal, aka a reason, for borrowing money).
But yes, the argument you are making is correct: that bad behavior such as racking up debts and loosing credibility directly influences the “cost of borrowing” money. Money is cheap to borrow right now and cheaper for people who are responsible.
Reality:
I like your suggestion. At the same time, I won’t dismiss Californian’s suggestions (the serious or at least semi-serious ones): “fly a Confederate battleflag and turn it into an act of free speech guerrilla theater… go to your city council and state the facts about relative black and white crime levels… organize a boycott of liberal media…” And I think part of the problem is that the other side has not only a “real political organization” and the “funds to fight court battles,” but also a lot of people out there doing what Californian has done for our side:
I want to quote W74 from this morning (“quoted for truth” is the expression, I believe):
And absolutely no apology necessary, LL. My original phrasing wasn’t at all clear. Anyway, clearly you and W74 have a much better handle on this loan business and I shall keep out of it.
Thank you for the clarifiying, W74 – in my argument I lost focus on mortgage lending and instead wandered off talking about credit in general.
And thank you Unamused. I appreciate being part of the conversation. Best regards.
You merely disagree with him over tactics.
Demonstrations work if they are part of a larger political offensive. Men’s rights activists (MRA) have gained some victories which might be useful to study. MRA are fighting against a PC government-media-university establishment which supports radical feminism (not unlike the struggle in which race realists find themselves against a PC establishment). For example: feminist-inspired domestic violence laws and policies have been written so that only women can be considered victims. Effectively, these laws turn men into second class citizens by denying equal protection under the law — not unlike affirmative action re white people.
MRAs countered by:
1) Setting up networks to mobilize opposition. This was done largely via the internet, but notices in print brought in some people.
2) Getting people out into the streets to picket against feminist-run conferences on domestic violence which excluded male victims. If nothing else, this put the radical feminists on the defensive–experience shows that PC people can not deal with it when people stand up to them openly.
3) Going to public meetings to raise this issue; this put politicians on notice that they would lose votes if they continued to support these one-sided laws, as well as giving MRAs an audience among the voters.
4) Finding a couple of lawyers to challenge these laws in court. You can often find attorneys who will work pro bono, especially if they have been victimized by a policy in the past.
5) Making phone calls to universities with domestic violence programs to ensure that they included men as well as women. And back this up by putting up flyers on the topic.
6) Hiring lobbyists to pressure politicians to rewrite the laws (probably the most important part of this!).
There was a considerable amount of trial and error here. Some things work, others do not. And there was no quick victory, but the result was that some of these laws and policies were changed to give men the same protection under the law as women. It was a quiet victory, I doubt if it made many headlines, but there are lessons to be learned.
A major point was to get men who had been victimized to come forward and get active. Getting out in the streets, even if it does not cause the powers-that-be to change anything, is good for morale. It gets people to realize that they are not alone, and that they can strike back.
It goes back to determining which tactics work. Then doing them.
I would encourage people not to use the battle flag to stir up controversy. You won’t do either the flag or your cause any favors if you do. It will just give ugly people like memekitten an excuse to bitch. And there are better ways of making a point.
If you want to display the flag then hang it on the wall inside your home. You can hang it over the fireplace. Or even over your headboard (so the South can rise again). But keep it indoors. And if a visitor wants to bitch all you have to say is, “Are you really going to tell me what I can and can’t put on the walls of my own home?” And if he gives you the wrong answer you can just repeat the question. I’ve rarely had anyone complain. And I’ve never had anyone give me the wrong answer twice.
Point well taken Destructure, but on the same token can you really tell someone what they can or cannot put up on a flagpole outside their home?
I still stand by my theory that if a dozen homes out of a hundred displaying Old Glory it would be sufficient to deter any new blacks from moving in and might even scare off a few current residents.
Heck, even better you might scare away a few liberals.
I’m not trying to tell you what to do. I had one on the front of my car for several years. I had one hanging in my office for several years, too. So I don’t have a problem with it. I just wouldn’t recommend it because it’s going to attract negative attention. But you can do what you want.
If you want to keep your neighborhood’s demographics intact then your best bet is to find some way of keeping the local school’s test scores up. That’s easier said than done but it works because whites care about education and will pay a lot more money for a house in a good school district. Other groups won’t.
If you wish to fly a banner for the South, fly the Confederate National Flag, the Stars and Bars. It is far different in appearance than the Confederate Battle Flag, and most folks don’t even know what it is. It is almost like a code-word between and among “those who know.”
In a small town I drive though occasionally, there is a business that flies this flag by itself; no American flag, no state flag. There has never been some leftist reporter shoving a microphone in the owner’s face asking him if he is a racist and trying to organize some boycott of his business. It simply flies day after day, and I get a great chuckle every time I drive by it knowing I am one of the few who really knows what it stands for: Southern Heritage, a true representation of what America should have been if only for the tide turning in a few battles.
Lets get this out there:
Steven Crowder: “Mr America”
By Powdered Zombies
http://www.nationalcenter.org/MrAmerica.mp3
DRAT! Foiled again………
For leap year Feb.29, a new black iconic hero…….
The first black explorer to cross the contient was a
black man with Lewis and Clark. see SBPDL about
the new statue at Lewis & Clark University/College.
He leaves a double whammy—–first black and a
slave who contributed to the expedition. SO THERE!!
Hunter Wallace has pwned BHM this year.
Hey Un, consider using racist instead of, or probably better, alongside, “anti-White.” Nobody gives a shit about “anti-White,” other than the (small) choir. “Racist” gets attention. The problem, obviously, is that nobody considers “anti-White” to be “racist,” so the best compromise seems to be to join the two at the hip, lending “racism’s” weight to “anti-White,” while redefining “racism” to include “anti-White.”
There are many different tactics which can be used. Mainly, you have to get out there and use some trial and error to figure them out. Or see what other activists have been up to. We’re all fighting the same system, and better to work together than against each other.
I’d say that flying the Confederate battleflag would work if there were some organization behind it. Hypothetically, by turning it into a free speech issue. Here is what could be done:
* Find a campus where this would be an issue: one which has both a sizable number of traditional students and a PC establishment.
* Get a lawyer or two lined up behind this.
* Get sympathetic media lined up.
* Announce this as a free speech issue, and fly the flag.
* If the university tries to stop you, sue them.
* If other students try to stop you, video any incidents and publicize them.
* Keep up the pressure to make the other side look bad.
The big thing is to turn this into a larger issue: it’s not about flying the CSA flag per se, but about free speech, about opposing repression on campus. Throw the other side on the defensive.
Might be useful to read up on the tactics used by Mario Savio or MLK to see what works and what does not.
Bear in the mind, in the information age tactics are not quite the same as they were in the 1960s.
Just some random thoughts …
Hey Unamused, there is a site called “dead african- american storage dot net”, except it’s not “african american” but rather the phrase made famous by Pulp Fiction. Check it out. Clearly, it was created by your unruly, bawdier cousin.
For some real black history, in case there’s anybody here who hasn’t already seen it, please go to Occidental Dissent and watch the film Africa Addio. Required viewing for every aspiring race realist.
@W74: there is a very simple, tested & proven solution to your problem as a prospective home-owner.
Forget the Confederate flag, the noose, and all that sort of thing, which are just likely to get you arrested by the ruling anarcho-tyranny.
All you have to do is set up some external speakers and play classical music over them with some regularity. Nothing too loud or aggressive – just some quiet, calming stuff like *The Well-Tempered Clavier*, Haydn’s String Quartets, some Madrigals by Monteverdi – that sort of thing.
Kryptonite to thugs.
And you’ll get to know some of the greatest achievements of Western civilization, into the bargain!
I’m quite serious – google “classical music” + crime and check out the links.
“The Well-Tempered Clavier”
Wow ! That’s some pretty stiff medicine you prescribe there, Steve Burton.
Africa Addio
There was a paperback book version of the movie, well illustrated with photos. I picked up a copy of it years ago in a used book store. Might be worth a search.
Awesome…I’m definitely going to use this lesson plan for my 7th grade students…that way they can keep perpetuating the bitterness over slavery for at least another 200 years.
And I could take bets on the number of students (black/white/mexican) who even know when slavery took place….b/c 7th graders here thought slavery ended in the 1960’s and the vietnam war was in the 1990’s when I asked earlier this year…lol
And the thought of young black and/or white children reading these comments is kinda funny…b/c none of them would understand the scholarly language…but then again we all know the school system has gone to shit, so lets find someone to blame for that too.
Wait..I forgot…this thread is about slavery…not getting over it….sorry.
Who doesn’t want young, impressionable youth to carry anger/bitterness from something that they don’t even understand.
Eh…I just sound like a bitch….whatever….reading the comments has been thoroughly entertaining!
*Africa Addio* pretty much has to be seen to be believed.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4540134202583442015#
KM
And zere iz no reference in YT ‘istory to a famous black slave owner.
Zat is gratuitously insulting to une chicque avec une nomme française!
…to say nothing of the VICE Guide to Liberia:
http://www.vice.com/the-vice-guide-to-travel/the-vice-guide-to-liberia-full-length
Saw this in the news:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/02/13/mystery-surrounds-disappearance-south-carolina-woman-dara-lee-watson/?ncid=webmail2
“Police are actively investigating the disappearance of a 30-year-old South Carolina woman whose burned SUV was discovered in a wooded area and whose finance was found dead inside the couple’s home.”
I must be psychic because I got a mental picture & I instantly realized that I can describe the the individual or individuals who did this – my crystal ball always tells me that this kind of crime is perpetrated 99% of the time by an African American male. 1% probability by an angry ex. Damn, I’m good- I need to be working for the police. I would prob already have this crime solved if I was there in S.C.!
SC isn’t Nifongland is it?
No, that’s Durham NC.
I am a white guy who grew up in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe. I just about wet myself reading this. If you could see some of the things I have seen. [Blacks] sure are dumb, but whites who are taken in by them will see the error of their ways when they are stabbed fo’ fiddy cent
steve burton-
Check out “Mugabe and the White African” as well as “The Last White Man”. You can see the same mentality among a lot of blacks in the US.
http://goo.gl/kM9fQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRNciryImqg
Read some of the comments on this thread. Marco and Destructure are absolutely right.
Huzzah, I has been bizzy and sheeit researchifying BHM. I done learned that for the first two years of the Revolutionary war, only black men fought. I guess they was fighting they own dumb asses, because the British was white, and sheeit?
Then some mofo cracked a peanut and made a invention and sheiit. YT done stoled it from it’s rightful owners.
Mah bruthas invented all the technology and sheeit, and all the music. YT stoled that too, and wouldn’t give us sheeit to make more technology or show us how to do it cuz of racism and predudice type sheeit.
Oh, and I discovered a rather excellent book called “Out of America” by Keith Richburg. This black man expressed his disgust at the shithole AKA Africa, and the black attitude in general. Very well written, and a must for alternate black history ‘munt. Cept he be a Uncle Tommin’ Yt puppett ‘n sheeit. He be possesed by the Debil, too.
I discovered a rather excellent book called “Out of America” by Keith Richburg
I remember that one. He reissued it with a foreword; amongst various burblings about this or that reaction to the book, he noted about how proud he was that Obama got elected.
It’s almost as if blacks just… don’t make the connection, between black rule and black misery.
W74,
Relating to your posts on keeping the you-know-who’s from moving to your neighborhood: The town of Cullman, AL supposedly use to have a sign that said “Don’t let the sun set on your black ass in Cullman”. Not sure when that was taken down by the PC police but it’s effects are still clearly visible (ie it’s a very nice town).
“Myth” links appear broken.
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