What we used to know about race (part 2)
Sep 19th, 2011 by Unamused
While we determine the veracity of Albert Schweitzer’s alleged quotation, try these instead.
Booker T. Washington (1856–1915), mixed-race (black/white) author, educator, and black leader:
There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs — partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs.
Frantz Fanon (1925–1961), black psychiatrist and revolutionary:
Ultimately it is the dream of every victim to exchange places with his oppressor.
James Baldwin (1924–1987), black author:
There is, I should think, no Negro living in America who has not felt, briefly or for long periods, with anguish sharp or dull, in varying degrees and to varying effect, simple, naked and unanswerable hatred; who has not wanted to smash any white face he may encounter in a day, to violate, out of motives of the cruelest vengeance, their women, to break the bodies of all white people and bring them low…
Miles Davis (1926–1991), black jazz musician:
If somebody told me I had only one hour to live, I’d spend it choking a white man. I’d do it nice and slow.
I notice you didn’t quote LeRoi Jones / Amiri Baraka. Which is okay, since I’ve already quoted him 346 times on the web. Naw just kidding.
Here are a bunch of good quotes:
That is of course Eldridge Cleaver. I’ll have to find that guy’s grave so I can vomit on it.
Those sentiments are reciprocated a lot more than Mr. Baldwin or Mr. Davis may have suspected.
Typical stupid black person with poor work ethic. If he works faster, he could get in three or four in his hour.
Want to know why I used to have Miles Davis in my musical collection? Because I felt the need to have some non-hiphop blacks in there. (And I had the hiphoppers because I felt the need to have some blacks in there.) Yes, I was a dipstick.
A simple web search on that Miles Davis quote gives a bit of context, namely that he was annoyed by a White interviewer repeatedly asking him questions about race. Of course, I can’t imagine a White guy being vexed enough about racial issues to make some incendiary comments about race just to be provocative.
Also, given the stats on White on Black rape, I very much doubt that many Whites reciprocate Mr. Baldwin’s sentiments.
Explorer and anti-slavery crusader Samuel Baker:
jesse jackson:
Don’t (?) worry, Olave, I’ve got plenty of despicable quotes from contemporary black “leaders” for you. This is just a taste. gordon-bennett gave a good one.
an.animus: Miles Davis wanted to spend the last full hour of his life slowly killing a man because of his race. Citing context doesn’t really do it for me.
Outstanding, Dutchman.
Race of animals. Our greatest day will be the day when we all not only realize this but respond accordingly.
Olave d’Estienne, he is buried at Mountain View Cemetery in Altadena, California, and if I beat you to visiting it, you’re going to be vomiting all over my shit.
I’m having an idea …. better stop thinking and start drinking.
Stupid honkies! Acting all indignant because some brothers said what the rest of us are thinking. Why y’all got to be so racist?
[Unamused: No anti-white slurs allowed. But yes, that really is what many of them (the blacks) are thinking. Who’s racist, again?]
Had to add this one.
[Unamused: That was actually Thomas Dixon, writing in “The Clansman.”]
Sucks for you racists that..
1. blacks have tons of kids while whites have few
2. white women LOVE black men
[Unamused: If you’d bothered to check the facts, you’d know that
1. the black birth rate in America is about the same as the white birth rate — it’s Hispanics who have a lot of kids; and
2. women of all races, but especially white women, prefer white men, and inter-racial relationships are extremely rare. (As I’ve explained before, white women shouldn’t date black men.)
Sucks for you anti-white racists — I mean, uh, “anti-racists.”]
Notice how the so called “anti-racist” gloats about impending genocide. Anti-racist is just a codeword for anti-white.
OT: Premiering tonight on ABC — The NEW Charlie’s Angels
New and improved now with 1/3 minority inclusion!
(Watch this horrid series remake flop in no time…)
Anti-Racist,
“White women LOVE black men”
Trust me when I say…”White women do Not like Black Men”
The perception of “white female desire” for the Negro male is one of the most misconceived notions about white woman. Granted you may see some overweight, unattractive, uneducated white women with Negro, but that is more uncommon than common.
( White/Lebanese female poster)
“2. white women LOVE black men”
It’s cute how Negroes think that TV and real life are the same thing, isn’t it?
I’ve been looking around for other quotes I’ve come across from the likes of Sir Francis Galton and Sir Richard Francis Burton, but I have yet to unearth them in the scores of works available online. If I rediscover them I’ll post whatever I find. I’m sure that both commented on racial differences since both men explored Africa.
For some insight into Africans as they lived before colonialism, check out the free book “The Negroes in Negroland” (1868). Its a compendium of observations by slavers, explorers, and others as they journeyed around Africa. I can’t vouch for the veracity of the source material but it makes for chilling reading.
Google Books provides easy access to old racism, if you search for books written before a few decades ago. Plenty of good quotes to be found. You’ll also realize that race-realist travel accounts are so much more entertaining.
Jay,
I agree completely. I have been browsing through various explorers accounts of ‘Darkest Africa’ while I’m supposed to be working my shitty office job. It is fascinating to read what they have to say about racial differences just at the time when Darwinism is becoming the mainstream of European thought.
It sucks for anti-whites that:
1. Evolution is a biological fact for humans, not just animals
2. Mixing with Blacks is not in any White’s Darwinian interest
3. Despite all the cradle-to-grave brainwashing since 1960, the only Whites who slum with Blacks either have massive psychological problems, or are gold-diggers going after rich sports stars.
4. In a natural environment (i.e. without brainwashing), White women are repulsed by Black men and want nothing to do with them.
G’dammit, stop saying “these ones.” That’s millenial girl talk. “These” includes “ones.” Jeez.
Like, totally, whatever.
Gag me with a spoon.
That quote from Miles Davis was very surprising especially since he is such a mainstream celebrity.
In listing these sorts of quotes there is danger in seeing things in black and white when it comes to race. Meaning one could develop the opinion that all blacks are out to get us whites and that simply is not true.
However I do admit that if I can I tend to avoid black neighborhoods. But that doesn’t mean that every black man or black woman hates me for being white… however some probably do hate me for being white.
Since Miles Davis hired Lee Konitz and Gerry Mulligan to work with him against the wishes of other Black musicians, and was friends with Gil Evans, I doubt that that quote is anything other than what I said, his attempt to fluster an annoying interviewer who was badgering him about racial issues. But that’s unconvincing to this blog’s owner, who is unamused that Miles Davis would say such a thing. Is he also unamused that the White nationalist poster Pat Hannagan writes such gems as this?
“Fuck I wish the USA would just nuke itself. I really don’t understand you people and I wish we didn’t have to deal with you. ”
http://onestdv.blogspot.com/2011/09/this-week-in-positivity-surprise-return.html
Miles Davis only ‘wanted’ to kill one White guy; Pat wants to exterminate many millions, yet he’s the object of a WN man crush from poster PA, on display in that thread.
OH MY GOD NO
some white nationalist internet commenter named Pat said “Fuck I wish the USA would just nuke itself”
sound the alarms
PS puns involving my pseudonym weren’t clever the first time someone came up with them, about eight months ago. they definitely aren’t clever now
I’m sure you’re unwilling or unable to get the point, but Davis’ annoyed race baiting of a race baiting interviewer, which you deemed worthy of mention to prove something about Davis (sound the alarms indeed!), means about as much as drunken Irish “fuck you all” from Pat. Not much, given the context.
PPS: I was only clever, or at least, not lazy, in using f-ing Google to check the source of the quotes, something you should learn how to do. Try reading this
http://www.googleguide.com/advanced_operators_reference.html
You’re welcome.
Nah, you’re just full of shit, if you’re honestly trying to compare Pat’s “drunken Irish ‘fuck you all'” with what Miles Davis said to an interviewer (you know, one of those people who conducts interviews with famous people, which are then published for many people to read?), which for the record was “If somebody told me I had only one hour to live, I’d spend it choking a white man. I’d do it nice and slow.”
I do not quote Miles Davis to “prove something” about him (didn’t I, though?), but because the quote (like all the others — a pattern, perhaps?) is indicative of racial attitudes — which you seem to agree with. (I thought your first take made a hell of a lot more sense.)
You seem really upset that someone made a black man look bad. By, uh, quoting him.
Well, you’ve certainly figured me out, Unamused! I spend my time going to WN and HBD sites to defend Black people, to prevent people like you from making them look bad. It is all so obvious, from the trail of posts I’ve left behind.
If I’m harassed by a feminist, I may make some intemperate comment about women just to piss her off. I may even make a nasty comment (“you need a good rough screwing” or somesuch) that I’d never make to my civilized female acquaintances, that I really don’t believe, but that works for dramatic effect. I take it this is very difficult for you to understand? Or that you find this horrible, that no one should ever engage in such behavior, even when baited? That may be, I’m not proud of the times I’ve done it, but it says little about me other than that I don’t always have perfect control of my mouth. I’d hate to have every such statement thrown back in my face.
Miles Davis said and did many idiotic things, but to hold up that statement as representing some fundamental aspect of the man, when I pointed out the context, is dishonest. As is insinuating that I am upset that a Black man is made to look bad. Dishonesty annoys me, whether it’s about Black IQ and crime rates, or an out of context quote made to make a (Black, in this case) man look like something he isn’t. But, it’s your blog, and your dime, so annoy away.
Did I really “hold up that statement as representing some fundamental aspect of the man”? Not that I can see…
If I have annoyed you, Captain “lern 2 use f-ing googl lolol,” then mission fucking accomplished.
So anyway, who’s been lying about black IQ and crime rates?
The enemy’s joy is the only reward we get for infighting. The first thing all aware Whites should keep in mind is that we are on the same team.
Animus, there’s ways to bring up stuff like this without the aggressive approach you started out with. Just keep that in mind for future encounters.
“despicable quotes”
Yes, let’s ignore the fact these men were born and raised in a time when actual hatred, violence and racism was directed toward them (as opposed to today, where Blacks are almost treated like royalty).
Just another moralizing HBD [nice person].
[Unamused: I never ignore historical solutions to the “Negro problem.”
Back then, people knew how to deal with African savages in their midst (segregation, lynchings, denial of civil rights — all justified, as should now be abundantly clear). They kept the blacks under control pretty well. Now… well, now they’re just running wild.
Anyway, I guess what I’m trying to say is: go fuck yourself.]