Talking about race (part 1)
Aug 28th, 2011 by Unamused
Previously on “Talking about race”: introduction.
Tonight I am reminded of the wise words of Ralph Waldo Emerson, the great American essayist, poet, and champion of individualism (according to Wikipedia):
I will not hide my tastes or aversions. … If you are true, but not in the same truth with me, cleave to your companions; I will seek my own.
I am also reminded of the immensely unwise words of one “Laughing Beaver,” a crazy stoned American Indian chick (according to this author’s personal experience):
LAUGHING BEAVER: Tonight we walk amongst the spirits, young Argues-With-Black-People, my truest friend.
UNAMUSED: I’m seven years older than you, and you’ve known me for eight hours.
LAUGHING BEAVER: Time moves differently for we Cherokee.
UNAMUSED: You’re Ojibwe.
LAUGHING BEAVER: Whatever. Tonight we commune with the Great Bear Spirit, to inform him that HE IS A COLOSSAL DICK. Yeah, that’s right, I said it! You hear me up there, Great Bear Spirit? Or is your big fat butt too big and fat to hear me calling you a COLOSSAL DICK?
UNAMUSED: Too big and fat to hear you? That doesn’t make sense even within the framework of —
LAUGHING BEAVER: Hush now. You are ruining my sacred buzz. Here, eat these mushrooms.
UNAMUSED: I’m not going to — mmmph! MMMPH!
LAUGHING BEAVER: See? Aren’t they DELICIOUS?
They weren’t.
Sharing the love
As I mentioned recently whilst on my ill-fated, unresolved expedition to bring race realism to the proud peoples of Canada, I have tentatively begun to explore the possibility of someday getting paid to do something I don’t hate; specifically, writing about the sorts of things I already write about on Unamusement Park, for free, in my limited spare time.
Commenter reactions were… mixed.
But it was too late! I had already completed phase one: to broach the subject of my (relatively) new-found race realism with a few friends and family members.
I anticipated resistance, dismissal, even hostility — and sooner rather than later. I didn’t expect to get much farther than “so, have you heard about these race riots all over the country?” or “hey, I’ve recently become interested in race differences in intelligence.”
As it turns out, I’ve been arguing with idiots on the Internet for far too long. (I seem to have lost my faith in the essential decency of the white man’s culture).
Talking face to face with ordinary (i.e., liberal) white folk (I’ll get around to the non-white folk eventually, I promise), looking them in the eye, telling them about race riots or lynch mobs or media bias (or flat-out censorship) or crime stats or intelligence research or human genetics or African atrocities or white racial consciousness (or all of the above), was an incredibly encouraging experience.
I would like to share some of my experience with you. Do not expect many personal details. Unlike, say, Unamusement Park’s token minority friend sofia-pickle (now one of three token minority friends!!), I like to keep my personal life off my blog — not for my sake, but for the sake of the other people involved, however tangentially, in the mildly popular ongoing thought crime that is my life.
Alright, that was a lie. The real reason I don’t transmit details of my personal life to thousands of readers in a public forum is because I don’t want to, damn it. Unfortunately, in this case, my privacy stood in the way of my goals: white rights, white racial consciousness, and positive white identity. To achieve those goals, more of us need to have this conversation off the Internet.
Writing articles is good. Putting up flyers is good too. But recruiting people you know well, and who therefore (presumably) know that you are not a psychotic “racist,” may be the most effective strategy of all, at this point in history.
I think it’s time. I think they’re ready for us — the great silent white majority. But I can hardly expect you to sign up with Hate Battalion Delta (HBD), strap on your race realist rifles, and march off to fight the 2nd Diverse Minority Battalion of the 4th White-Opposed Race Denialists (2-DMB 4-WORDs) in this, the great undeclared War on Hate, when as far as you know, I’m sitting at home, keeping my mouth shut, doing my best not to rock the boat, while Western civilization burns around me.
Except I’m not.
Best-case scenario
In talking to the two people (I’m tempted to say “victims”) who knew me best, and (probably not coincidentally) were willing to listen the longest, I achieved complete success. What do I mean by “complete success”? Their replies to what was essentially “Unamusement Park: the condensed, verbal edition (with snack breaks and fewer kitties)” can be summarized as follows:
- “Is that really true?”
- “Wow. I didn’t know that.”
- “Yeah, I guess that makes sense. It explains a lot, doesn’t it?”
- “Wait, how is that ‘racist’? It’s just logical.”
- Repeat.
At the beginning of our conversations, they had no idea what I believe about race, and hardly any idea about the state of race relations in the world today. By the end, I had literally run out of outrageous things to say.
I covered race riots and black lynch mobs. I lamented the media’s anti-white bias. I explained race differences in intelligence — thoroughly. I decried the state of immigration in America and Europe. At one point I got distracted and blamed low white birth rates on gender feminism, with ambiguous success. I told one of them how embarrassing it is to me, personally, that Jews seem to be over-represented in anti-white organizations like the SPLC, and how I hoped to recruit lots of pro-white Jewish race realists to make up for it. I left them with “Africa in Our Midst,” “Morality and Abstract Thinking,” and “What Is It Like to Teach Black Students?”
It was all very encouraging and extremely anti-climactic.
I don’t attribute much of my success to my dubious debating skills. I was simply stating facts (lots and lots of facts, which I have memorized for just such an occasion), in a reasonable, unbiased sort of way (i.e., no racial slurs), to intelligent, open-minded people. How could I lose?
Next time on “Talking about race”…
Well, now that the ‘Park is all personal ‘n’ stuff, shall I tell you about the girls I met this weekend? All of them hot white girls, of course. One was even a real live gratuitous French girl! I told her I was a radical traditionalist defending Western civilization from the Mexicans, the Muslims and the Congolese. She went home with me anyway.
Hey, this could be Unamusement Park’s very own contribution to game literature! What shall we call it? Racist game? Race realist game? White nationalist game? The “defense of Western civilization” routine?
This is really exciting. Am I a PUA now? Did I neg someone? How many notches do I get? And how do I correctly assign a numerical value to the H-ness of the HBs I open and close? I AM SO EXCITED
LATER

Unamused wrote:
Unamused, are you Jewish?
I’ve recently started reading DavId Duke’s book ‘Jewish Supremacism’ and in conjunction with Kevin McDonalds’ writings it leads one to the awful view that the whole multiculti destruction of White society is at heart a kind of Jewish conspiracy to undermine White societies through third world immigration (just one among various other means).
According to them, the Jewish community needs no recruiting into ‘race realism’ as they live and breath it.
Anyway, I’m interested in your thoughts.
BTW, nice pic.
Ethnically, half European Jew and half Aryan, katana — and the European-Jewish half has plenty of white ancestry. As a result, everyone I know considers me to be white, and so do I. Otherwise (culturally, religiously, etc.), I’m not Jewish.
As I said, I am aware of — and embarrassed by — Jewish over-representation among “anti-racists” (who are, of course, merely anti-white). This is certainly a legitimate subject for race realist discussion. But I will leave it for others to discuss the Jews and the various Questions that arise concerning them (when it is not totally off-topic, which it almost always is, here); that is simply not my area of expertise. It is enough for me that one acknowledges that there are some ethnic Jews and part-Jews (presumably including me and JAY) who are not involved in any Jewish conspiracies to destroy the white race.
It is surprising how many otherwise right-thinking (i.e., race realist) individuals are not prepared to admit this — the sorts of people who will occasionally declare, on the basis of no evidence whatsoever, that this blog is somehow biased in favor of Jews over whites; that I identify as Jewish in some way other than the (partial, but undeniable) genetic; that most of my commenters are Jewish (I think more of them are black, actually); and other strange ideas which appear to be the product of pure prejudice.
Anyway, welcome. I look forward to your thoughts — on Jews and other things.
And flattery. Especially flattery.
Another ‘Jay’ here. Genetically, it sounds like we are very similar. Mostly German and Celt with a bit of central European Jew thrown in. I wasn’t raised Jewish, but I am pro-Israel and have adopted some Jewish traditions as my own. And I am also very disappointed to have learned how self-destructive and anti-common sense so many Jews are. They don’t have to assimilate to be widely accepted. Just quit meddling!
:)
Good for you, Un, that your conversations went so well. I think I mentioned it in the comments section in one of your posts a few weeks ago that I encounter this willingness to talk about race among white people much more often than only 1 or 2 years ago.
I also get it a lot that white people do not expect traditional party politics or politicians to resolve anything. Preparedness becomes important to many, as they envision social unrest to become the way things will unravel and then resolve.
The Jewish question is handled in an incredibly simplistic way by many among us WN. I am very irritated by the fact that Jews are so overrepresented in everything detrimental to Whites: Boasian anthropology, psychoanalysis, cultural marxism, bolshevism, Frankfurt School, etc. and I must admit that I have been on the fence on that one for a long period of time.
We need more Jews or Jewish Whites among WN. That might not be easy but it is the only way we can take our world back.
Most people, deep down, are race realists. Their actions prove that. These conversations are basically about getting people to own up to their “inner race realist.” And since it’s socially dangerous to do such a thing, the best approach is usually one on one. Eventually, a time will come at which it is safe to be more open.
The problem is that Jews are very smart…and guilt-ridden…and scared…and smug…and all kinds of other things, both complimentary and not-so-complimentary. As a result of their good qualities they frequently rise to the top of any organization, but their collective psychosis draws them into trying to remold it into the way they think it ought to be instead of the way it is supposed to be.
LOL!!!
Hey Phalluster, where’d you find that great picture of me? lols
I think these ‘conversations’ with outsiders are easier the more new media can show the true black, not the Huxtable family with Doctor and Lawyer parents that people saw on TV in the ’80s. The other factor is that the black family has disintegrated so much and created such maladjusted offspring that middle class and upper middle class whites no longer can attempt to see similarities. I’ll use a sports analogy: Magic Johnson was a smiling, no tattoo kid from a two parent home. Lebron James is not. That’s why whites are rejecting black culture and increasingly becoming more open to being realistic or even outright opposition. Blacks that voice protest or cry for even more ‘rights are no longer shirt and tie or well dressed men and women who have a great chance of being married. They have been replaced by whining educated blacks who have grown up post-civil rights or the extremely large class of underclass blacks from broken homes that subsist on charities and government largesse. Whites are sick of it, and get inflamed when they think of their elderly parents worrying about social security cuts when blacks have 39% of their entire population on food stamps.
Snow Walker said:
Back in the 60s , several top Republican thinkers thought it would be a good idea to welcome Jews into the GOP fold. You know where that got them? Jews still overwhelmingly vote democrat, still despise the traditional right and the Semitic hand is firmly around the throats of both establishment parties. The GOP is now ‘Israel first, European Americans last.’
Welcoming Jews into White Nationalism would be the dumbest Trojan Horse mistake since the GOP takeover. It would completely defeat the point of our entire cause. If you don’t realize that Jews are the greatest threat to the White race, then you shouldn’t even call yourself a WN.
What this blog never asks is: Who’s behind all this?
Argues-With-Black-People your indian name is the best.
An internet black guy just told me that while is true blacks have a higher rate of violent crime, intraracial violent crime dwarfs interracial violent crime. In other words that although the lions share of interracial crime is black on white, the majority of crime stays within the race. I don’t really crime stats inside and out, what is the best response to this?
Don’t forget “When Whites Lie to Blacks” and this NPR story.
Seems the knockout game is still alive and well in St. Louis.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/08/black-teen-mobs-target-st-louis-cyclists-in-knock-out-game/
Although the blogger identifies the race of the attackers, the news channel sure did not even though the police said they were looking for the young hooligans. There probably hasn’t been an Irish game causing trouble in St. Louis since the great depression.
Count me in as part of the club. In the staunchly liberal-left community that I’m part of (mixed Jewish and gentile) even bringing up issues such as fiscal responsibility or how to deal with jihad are considered right wing extremist. In about 10 years of getting off the liberal-left wagon, with only a year or so interest in HBD, I mostly keep my cards close to the vest. BTW, I consider myself and other Ashkenazi Jews (I am 1/8 Sephardic for those keeping score) to be White.
But then we can’t win. WN’s don’t consider us white, and the diversicultural thought police don’t give us any special dispensation around “white privilege” or any of their other racist crap. Doesn’t matter if the diversicrat is Jewish, Black, Asian (a Jewish female friend is in a relationship with a prominent Chinese-American who among other things produced the propaganda film “The Color of Fear”), whatever.
And yes I find the behavior of those well-known lefty Jews to be pretty reprehensible.
It’s been interesting being exposed to a certain amount of ant-Semitism as I’ve explored the HBD world. I don’t freak out about or anything, but these kind of comments would only reinforce the fears and prejudices of most Jews who would come across them. In my POV I see a significant kernel of truth but also much paranoia and exaggeration.
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2011/08/ludwig-f-clauss-racial-style-racial-character-part-i/
The Office of Racial Policy of the NSDAP(Das Rassenpolitische Amt der NSDAP)has printed pictures and plaques and has distributed them in German schools, where we read in large letters the following words: Each race in itself represents the highest value.
@Aaronovitch
Personally, my response to the argument that “most crime is intraracial” is “so what?”
The point is that when it comes to race relations, interracial crime stats prove that blacks prey on whites to a degree that simply isn’t comparable to anything whites are doing to blacks.
These facts fly in the face of some of the central tenets of the left’s theory of white privilege, namely, that being white means never having to worry about one’s physical safety, and never having to worry about being singled out for violence due to one’s skin color.
White privilege is a myth.
You must be so glad they didn’t reply with, “Hey, man why do you talk that way, I mean that is wrong. I don’t go for that so don’t talk that way around me. I just don’t believe that.” According to Al Gore, such brilliance is what “won the argument” against racism. I just hope you’ve prepared a response to that incisive remonstrance should you come up against it.
And if you do, would you please share it here; Gore now has me terrified that someone will drop that penetrating argument on me and I won’t have anything to counter it with.
[Unamused: A response eh? How about… “NIGGA PLEASE!”]
That Al Gore argument is deadly. Good thing I didn’t hear that or I would have become a lifelong anti-racist activist on the spot.
Oh people are talking about species (not race, species)!
Homo Sapiens are getting really fed up with Homo Africanus and what’s amazing is these comments on this article have so far not been censored or closed.
But don’t worry, I saved ’em all as .txt and .htm files ;)
[Unamused: Wow, that’s a great comments thread. Hope for St. Louis — same as Chicago: furious white people.]
Aaronovitch,
That’s highly deceptive. Here is the truth.
There are many more white people than black people, so most violent crime is committed by whites. Whites overwhelmingly (95%+) choose white victims. This is why so much crime is intra-racial.
Blacks, on the other hand, commit violent crime at much higher rates than whites, and they are more likely to choose white victims than black victims.
Putting together white-on-white crime and black-on-black crime, you find that most violent crime is intra-racial. However, this is due to white-on-white crime. Most black violent crime is inter-racial, and in fact black-on-white violent crime is more common than black-on-black violent crime.
It is also true that, as you point out, most inter-racial crime involving blacks and whites (over 80% of it) is black-on-white. Furthermore, the black rate of inter-racial crime is staggering compared to the white rate, especially for multiple-offender (gang) violence.
This is all based on the National Crime Victimization Survey and Uniform Crime Reports; I used data from 2008, and the New Century Foundation used data from 2001-2003 for the second edition of “The Color of Crime” (2005), but you see very similar results every year. See my flyer for more.
A solid counter argument, thanks.
Tight-knit ethnic community + insane leftist (in)sensibilities = You’d better toe the party line or else
That’s why the Jews who stand against X in the name of, oh shucks let’s call it common sense, are in a special league of their own, what you might call a “Shtetl of Mettle.”
Cynewulf
I realize that Jews are overrepresented in organisations that destroy White culture. I said so in my comment. That does NOT prove to me that there is an ORGANIZED Jewish effort to destroy Whites. If you have any such evidence, Cynewulf, please post it here or link to it.
I would ask you to refrain from telling me what I should or should not call myself. Who do you think you are?
Unamused,
Off-topic, but I came upon this update re. a topic you posted on earlier this month; thought you might consider it fodder for further consideration:
http://www.wisn.com/r-video/28994407/detail.html#.Tl0EUSdQvbA.facebook
(I briefly looked through your home-page links but didn’t see a personal email for post suggestions)
[Unamused: Thanks.]
when googling to find a quick counter stat to your claim, I came across a right-conservative-blog-like site titled examiner.com discussing this issue; it cites Dept. of Justice figures of claiming that 45% of ‘serious’ black crime is black-on-white while 43% is black-on-black.
Now, I tend to dislike putting myself in this position; it’s easy to assume I’m putting myself in the rather homely role of trying to lessen the impact of black-on-white crime —– but anecdotally and scholastically speaking, however casual, it’s hard for me to believe that black thugs prey upon whites statistically more than those of theiir own race in their own community —– very, very much of which routinely goes unreported.
That doesn’t in any way lessen the point you and others make about the vast disproporition amongst the instigators of interracial crime, but since this is a subject already given to hyperbole, it’s hard for me to believe that blacks don’t comprise the largest number of victims to black criminals. (it’s probably because the overall point withstands this point, so it’s that much harder for me to rouse myself and further investigate)
Unamused wrote:
Thanks for your reply.
This part makes me curious,
You give the impression that you would rather not touch the subject, not because of the issue of ‘expertise’, but rather what it may lead to. That’s understandable given your (small) part Jewish background.
I tended to avoid pursuing the ‘Jewish’ angle on why Western societies are hell bent on self destructive behavior, as I associated it with a slippery slope leading to ‘Neo-Nazi’ kind of thinking.
But recently (since starting to read David Duke, Kevin Mac Donald and others) the role of Zionism (or whatever you want to call it) has reared a very ugly head indeed, in my thinking.
In any case, your blog would be improved if it not only dealt with the symptoms of MultiCulti religion (fascism) but also, now and then, dared to look into the root causes of it.
If Zionism is a factor in all of this, then let’s deal with it. If not, then move on and find out what other factors are causing the West to fall.
Treating symptoms of the disease is good, but curing it is even better.
——
Unamused, with money in your pocket, you are wise, and you are handsome, and you sing well too.
Jewish proverb
nikcrit, thanks for your criticism, as it gives me the opportunity to elaborate.
Anecdotal evidence of violent crime victimization is statististically insignificant in a country of 300 million people, and academia is the greatest bastion of the race denialist cult of “diversity” (fewer whites) and “tolerance” (thought policing). That said, let me prove my point.
The revised second edition of “The Color of Crime” (New Century Foundation, 2005) uses data from the Bureau of Justice Statistics (NCVS) and the FBI (UCR) to demonstrate that blacks prefer to attack whites (2001–2003). The violent crimes covered by the NCVS include robbery, rape, and assault; there are relatively so few murders annually that they do not affect the result (I checked).
You won’t find a “counter stat” because none exists.
I know it is hard to believe at first, but black thugs really do prey on whites more than blacks. And this is not just because whites have more money, an excuse for black criminality that I heard very recently: in 2008, only 21 percent of those black-on-white violent crimes were robberies; the rest were assaults and rapes.
As for reporting, blacks are consistently about 10 percentage points more likely to report violent crime to the police than whites; they are consistently slightly more likely to report property crime (source: BJS).
What we think we know about race and crime, or race in general, is often very different from the truth. I defer to the data.
katana, you have a point there. I’d rather not touch the subject.
If and when I do, I (being a negative sort of person) will have to start by cleaning out all the garbage — what you describe as the “‘Neo-Nazi kind of thinking.” Take Holocaust denial (perhaps “Holocaust skepticism” is more fair?), for instance — not necessarily relevant to Jewish involvement in the “anti-racist” (anti-white) movement, and not necessarily “Neo-Nazi” either, but many “Jewish Questioners” actually are Neo-Nazis, and insist on bringing it up. Long-debunked “arguments” involving, e.g., the total number of Jews worldwide before and after WWII [it didn’t go up], Zyklon B residues in gas (“delousing”) chambers [it takes more to delouse clothes than to kill people], and the “unreliable” (meaning less than 100 percent reliable) testimony of survivors [of course it’s unreliable, decades after the fact] are still regularly trotted out by Stormfront types.
I just know I’ll end up having to debunk that sort of thing on a regular basis. I do not look forward to it. I think I have better things to do. Maybe I’m just treating the symptoms. But it’s what I do.
Thing is, Unamusement Park is actually doing something in the real world, like posting flyers.
What is the anti-Jewish contingent of WN doing in the real world? Picketing the offices of the ADL? Going to city hall and demanding a boycott of “Jewish” media? Marching into feminist studies classes and telling them that they are a front for menopausal Jewish women à la Friedan?
I would like to see the anti-Jewish wing of WN try any of the above actions. Then post YouTube video online. Heck, if you decide to march into a feminist studies class inform us all ahead of time, and if we are in the area, we will come on down and watch the fun.
It’s one thing to come up with grandiose theories on the internet. But when you translate your theory into action you will quickly find out what works and what does not (and I have years of political activism to back up this statement). Anti-Jewishness may sound grand in theory. It reduces everything down to a neat explanation.
But what practical political action do you plan in the real world? I do not mean in some utopian white ethno-state. I mean in terms of practical political objectives in America today? Can anyone in the anti-Jewish wing please give me some example of any real political change they have managed to accomplish in America in the last five decades?
So keep up the good work, UA.
And now for something completely different…
Some thoughts:
Look at the political aspect. What if the situation were reversed and there was a disproportionate amount of white-on-black crime? What if, say, there were 30,000 cases of white-on-black rape a year, but only a 100 black-on-white? You can imagine the screams of “Racism!” which would resound across the net. Plus the television specials. And the beating of breasts by academics. And the emergency sessions of Congress to deal with the situation. And perhaps even a UN Declaration or two.
But the reality is that black-on-white crime is totally out of proportion, thus we might ask, what are the political implications? Especially after five decades of civil rights legislation, and war on poverty, and affirmative action, and diversity indoctrination, and every manner of social engineering.
Agitprop tells blacks that they are oppressed and that white people are responsible for every last black pathology. Does black-on-white crime constitute a low level form of urban guerrilla warfare, an insurgency against the “privileged? ”
And how much more of this is the result of white people being morally disarmed by liberal guilt? We have the flash mobs beating on white people. In the words of one black youth, white people are easy targets because they are weak. Not so much weak physically, but weak morally. Resisting black aggression would mean overcoming decades of conditioning that tells everyone that blacks are the victims and whites the perpetrators–even when the reverse is the case.
Look at the implications when whites become a minority. Look at the crime situation in the rainbow nation of South Africa. Massive amounts of black-on-white crime, and de facto anti-white terrorism in the form of farm attacks and torture-murders. Whites are being driven out of lands they have lived in for centuries. Just as whites in America’s cities have been driven out by black-on-white crime and riots and gang-banging and now flash mobs.
Maybe it has always been this way. The history of the world is one of clans and nations and empires fighting each other over territory and resources and prestige. Why should it be different today?
But the difference is, despite the obvious disproportion of black-on-white violence, many if not most white people do not seem to want to stand and fight–or even recognize that they are under attack.
Truly remarkable.
I live in the South; telling folks how you stand on race issues isn’t a big deal. Sometimes you’ll get laughs or someone will say “you shouldn’t say that” but no one says I’m wrong either. Hell most of the women I know agree with my low opinion of women too.
I’m a private military contractor and telling my co-workers how I stand on race goes pretty much the same way.
Aaronovitch,
I wrote an article 6 weeks ago called Homicide: Trends by race.
According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics, 86% of white victims were killed by whites whereas 94% of black victims were killed by blacks. This is not insignificant. That means blacks who are only 13% of the population were responsible for 14% of white homicides compared to non-hispanic whites who are 72% of the population responsible for only 6% of black homicides. This is an enormous difference indicating blacks are more than 15 times as likely to kill whites than the reverse.
Now, this could simply be the result of blacks having a higher overall murder rate. Only it’s not. One would expect most homicides to be acquaintances since one would have fewer reasons to kill a stranger. And, indeed, one sees significantly fewer black on black stranger homicides compared to black on black acquaintance homicides.
But there are actually more black on white stranger homicides compared to black on white acquaintance homicides. Blacks are twice as likely to murder an acquaintance across racial lines as Whites but four times as likely to murder a stranger across racial lines as Whites. This increase in stranger homicides means blacks are, in fact, targeting whites.
[…] — this has been my experience too, except as a blogger: In talking to the two people (I’m tempted to say […]
unamused: you’ve got a gift for words second only to mencius moldbug in this neck of the internet woods.
please do carry on. and please ignore the jewsmellers pursuivant. don’t let them distract you.
when can we expect part 3 of your hilarious/horrific report on the Congo?
[Unamused: I promise it’s on the way!]
Unamused wrote:
Fair enough.
Debunking Holocaust doubters is unnecessary. Don’t venture into the argument until you are comfortable.
Getting to the root causes of why you need to write what you do is, I think, a practical step, that can be taken bit by bit.
If houses are going up in flames in your community then suspecting that there are arsonists at work is the beginning of solving the problem. Volunteering to work with the local Fire Brigade is also worthwhile, but in itself, maybe a long job that only ends when there are no more houses.
Anyway, I like your stuff, your ‘black’ humor, so keep at it.
Jews run the anti-White media, Jews started the naacp, Jews run the $plc, Jews fund pro-immigration groups, no wonder why so many dis-like the Jew.
First, the NAACP was started by 3 white non-Jewish men, 2 white non-Jewish women, 2 black men, 1 black woman, and 1 Jewish man (Henry Moskowitz).
Second, every Jewish media executive, NAACP founder, SPLC staffer, and funder of pro-immigration groups, put together, represents a negligible percentage of Jews. Therefore, those people you claim “dis-like the Jew [in general]” on that basis are being irrational.
Thanks for your “contribution.”
“Jews run the anti-White media, Jews started the naacp, Jews run the $plc, Jews fund pro-immigration groups, no wonder why so many dis-like the Jew”
1. Population statistical thinking people! Population statistical thinking! There are two types of people that I have become intolerant of: 1) People that deny differences and/or deny that the differences are tied to the internal characteristics of the groups that manifest them and 2) People that essentialize differences. There is a third type, of course: 3) People that accuse me of being 2) when I am just being anti-1).
a. Analogy time: blacks are prone to criminality, as Jews are prone to (Europhobia). Not all blacks are prone to criminality. Not all Jews are prone to Europhobia. But a noticeable amount of both groups are so prone. There are noticeable White-black, Gentile-Jew differences. If we were clever enough, we probably could derive a formula for calculating the probability that any random Jew will act in a deleterious manner with regards to out ethnic interest. (We’ll have to wait for our resident Jews or Mischlinge to do this for us.)
b. Analogy time: the Black proneness to criminality is conditioned by individual genetics, just as the Jewish proneness to Europhobia is conditioned by collective culture. Both tendencies were conditioned by (genetic and cultural, respectively) evolutionary forces.
That’s it. It’s that simple. With that clarified, we can answer 1) what is the objective importance, the effect size, of both behavioral patterns? This should be quantifiable and for the sake of objectivity we can translate the between population difference into within population metrics. E.g. Blacks, on average, behave like the 25th percentile of whites in terms of pro-social behavior; i.e. Jews behave like the 10th percentile of Christian Whites in terms of pro-ethnic behavior (i.e. like ultra liberals). This then can be weighted for population size and influence i.e. having 40 million antisocial prone Blacks around is equivalent to shifting the White criminal bell curve 1.5 SD to the right, which results in an excess of x criminal behaviors per 1000 Having 5 million ant-ethic prone Jews around is like shifting the White anti-ethnic bell curve 1 SD to the right, which results in an excess of x anti-racist behaviors per 1000. We can then 2) plug this into our probability function and calculate the probable deleterious effect of a random Jew.
This, of course, allows a relatively objective way of looking at the effect; we don’t get confused by the “but they’re not one of us” sentiment. Now my educated guess would be that, on average, Jews are equivalent to Liberals with regards to anti-ethnic behavior (+1 SD). There influence (due in part to average heightened IQ), makes them equivalent to at least 20 million liberals…
Anyways, this is how these things need to be thought about. Scientific racism, scientific antisemitism in the true sense.
A pretty college girl discussing HBD & diversity!
http://www.youtube.com/user/HeyRuka#p/u/0/c_CgstmkuOE
@Chuck
But if you consider the rate at which Jews *create* anti-white ideas (as opposed to simply subscribing to and propagating them) or, say, anti-white legislation (1964 immigration act), you’ll see they have a greater influence.
Marx, Boas, Freud and other Jewish intellectual pioneers of anti-white ideology have paved the way more than any white.
@Laconophile
Hmmm….image a “general anti-white factor (gaf).” And imagine that there are all sorts of measures of this factor (e.g. support for immigration, support for democrats, etc.). I would like to calculate the standardized difference between non-Jewish Whites and Jews in this factor. This would give me an objective index of Jewish antiwhiteness and some indisputable evidence to present to Unamused when making my case that he needs to work harder to atone for the sins of … For example, probably 90% of Jews support Democrats, while only 45% of indoEuropeans support them; this is equivalent to a Cohen’s d of 1.4. [To translate % differences into standardized differences use “=normsinv(%)-normsinv(%)” in excel.]. So, based on this measure, Jews have a gaf 1.4 SD higher than indoEuropeans. Of course, support for democrats might not be a reliable measure of gaf, so we would want to average this with other measures, dozens of them, to come up with a good estimate — and, of course, we should compare this d with other White-White subpopulation ds (e.g. White-protestant. White-Irish, etc.) That way we don’t have to deal with this fucking debate anymore:
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Someone: Jews run the anti-White media, Jews started the naacp,
Unamused: First, the NAACP was started by 3 white non-Jewish men, 2 white non-Jewish women, 2 black men, 1 black woman, and 1 Jewish man (Henry Moskowitz).
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Along comes Chuck: So we have “=normsinv(1/millions of Jews in the US during 1909)-normsinv(5/millions of indoEuropeans in the US during 1909)” equals ….
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I just wish people could have a little freaking respect. If you want to talk about loxism, Jewish support for leftism, Jewish antagonism toward European civilization, etc., it seems like there are better places to do it than a blog run by someone partly of Ashkenazi descent (unless the blog’s owner has opened a thread on that particular topic). Likewise don’t go to Flavia’s or HBD Chick’s blog and complain about women drivers, or to Sagat’s and complain about Thai people, or whatever.
Seems like common sense to me. If people came to my blog and complained about Franco-Manx leftists I’d probably get tired of it.
[Unamused: Thanks Olave, but as long as they keep it civil and make an effort to support their points, it’s fine by me.]
The most important article about women and social decay I have ever read. http://www.fisheaters.com/garbagegeneration.html
[Unamused: I’ve got it bookmarked for exactly that reason.]
I have also tried my hand at poster-writing and, yes, poster-distributing (at CU); you can see the PDF at JAY’s (although I haven’t checked in at CU to see if anyone noticed).
[Unamused can see from my email which regular poster this is, although I prefer anonymity for now. Did I mention that CU is in Boulder? So, yeah, I’m still working on that courage thing.]
BTW I’m part Jewish. So, um, I second what Californian said.
Fair enough, Unamused, you’re a tolerant person. I just don’t know what anyone could hope to accomplish. No sane person could ask you to stop being part-Ashkenazi-by-descent. So are they asking you to be less pro-white?
I’m in an ornery mood or I would probably tolerate it better and stop trying to understand it.
Islam versus Europe links to a pro-French demonstration in France, last Saturday.
I recently read that orthodox Jews vote nearly 80% Republican and that reform Jews vote nearly 80% Democrat. Now, I’m not really concerned so much about the partisan angle. But it’s an interesting indicator of liberal vs conservative tendencies. How can one Jewish sect be so conservative when the other is so liberal? I find it unlikely that orthodox Jews are overwhelmingly pro white gentile while reform Jews are overwhelmingly anti white gentile. There has to be something else going on. I’m not saying there isn’t some Europhobic, ethnocentric, etc going on. But there just has to be something else going on.
http://platea.pntic.mec.es/~cvera/hotpot/badi1.htm
Gratuitous French song.
[…] From the Jew run, pro-Jewish website Unamusement Park As I said, I am aware of — and embarrassed by — Jewish over-representation among “anti-racists” (who are, of course, merely anti-white). This is certainly a legitimate subject for race realist discussion. But I will leave it for others to discuss the Jews and the various Questions that arise concerning them (when it is not totally off-topic, which it almost always is, here); that is simply not my area of expertise. […]
Turns out HeyRuka hates Jews as she’s on SF telling the the fair-minded and law-abiding SF citizens/skinheads how much she hates Jews and that she is definitely not Jewish even though she “unfortunately looks like one.” Ouch. Ouch.
Good. Hopefully you can convince your fellow Jews that Jews and whites don’t have to be racial enemies, and in fact have a lot of interests in common. I’m happy that while we haven’t been able to keep America white, we have helped to keep Israel Jewish.
“your fellow Jews”
never gets old